My fascist Rush Limbaugh fan brother is 65 and loves anime. Just saying.
What do republicans like about anime? The villains? They all talk like anime villains.
I am surprised neither Frieza nor the Goblins from Goblin Slayer became the mascot for the right: both have identical ideologies to conservatives.
My opinion? It's not any particular character archetype, it's the underlying cultural suggestions of social conformity and authority. No real grays. It's subtle reactionary worlds of assumed norms.
To me Dragonball Z was about accumulating power. Wisdom was a seasoning sprinkled around to help gain more power. And if you gained the most violent power then you can get wishes granted and by then I'm sure the accumulation of power didn't make you a flint hearted villain like in real life and you would make the world a better place...you just need more power.
I've never liked anime and it's probably that that gives me the creeps. The whole "assume these norms are good and right" and then you get sexism and school drama and poverty and wealth, and it just never comes up to question it or do anything about it. You just need to adapt and go along. Power is good, coolness aesthetics and popularity is good and you should go along and agree and do whatever it takes to accumulate whichever of these resources is seen as good so then you'll be good, too. Super reactionary to me.
I doubt many would agree with this, but I thought I would write it down for myself anyway.
when i was a kid i liked dragon ball z because i liked the good guys defending the earth from the saiyans, then freeza, then cell. i stopped watching after that.
whenever i see a reactionary online i don't think i see a dbz character avatar, just a generic anime girl. the kind that looks like it takes no effort to draw, and is indistinguishable from all the other ones.
Kenpachi doesn't spend his entire morning putting bells in his hair to be maligned like this. Sometimes I psych myself up by going, "you mean you need a reason... to FIGHT?!"
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Goblin Slayer is extremely fascist, it's all about how even minor individual enemy combatants need to be erased from the surface of the earth because they desecrate everything they touch and will eventually crush anything with human wave tactics.
And if you try to bring up the uncomfortable implications about this the response is inevitably :morshupls: "ACKCHYUALLY it is a FACT of the setting that goblins are inherently evil and must all be killed" as if the anime were a window into another dimension instead of a work of fiction whose setting was created deliberately and with intent
I love anime, but I have to acknowledge that its consequences have been unacceptable. Uncritical support for anti-anime aktion!
Manga art - particularly the MEO and Chibi styles - work well in reactionary media as they are both non-threatening and visually very stripped down. For an ideology that favors uniformity and visual flawlessness, whose utopian vision is distinctly homogeneous, this very minimalist artistic portrayal of movement leaders clicks.
I notice that fascist "bad guys" tend to get the hyper-realist treatment, while the fascist "good guys" become increasingly bland uniform ambiguously aged caricatures of people.
Transforming a frumpy looking 40-year-old into a flattened out eternally youthful generic NPC looking mf feeds the narrative of this perfect ubermench race fascists are all clamoring to claim membership in.
How in the hell did the nazis beat us in the race to elect an anime girl to higher office?
Why do you think we have all the feminists with the blue hair on our side? For the anime plan and now it's ruined
We may have lost the battle, but we will win the thousand year blood war
a fascist loving anime and lord of the rings?!
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have you watched the new LOTR series
every angle is a war hawk angle where they say 'we have to act now and destroy the orcs before they get too strong' or 'we have to fuck over the dwarves and steal their precious mithril because the elven kingdom relies on it AND if the elven kingdom dies then how will the world be safe?!!'
Now in today's terms it sounds like an allegory that would legitimise the American regime, ie 'we have to take their oil and land so that we can keep being the worlds police force'... If you replace the word mithril with oil, the whole series reveals its agenda.
HOWEVER, it's of course taken from Tolkien's source material, when a call to action WAS valid. The Nazis were starting to build in numbers, and nations around it should have stepped in sooner.
It's just interesting that because so much time has passed, the source material has come to mean something completely different.
That's my half baked observation, at least.
It’s unsurprising that fascists misinterpret a piece of antifascist literature with strong anti-industrialism / pro-ecological themes, but it is still very annoying.
Oh yeah ofc I don't think LOTR made her a fascist
I cant even tell how much of the new Amazon series is intentional war hawking and how much of it is just total obliviousness and shoddy writing in an age where media is pure slop, meant to say very little about anything. Just consume the pretty colours and expensive sets (which also look shit most of the time).
Tolkien himself kind of famously didn't like the "All Orcs are always evil" thing but he never got around to cooking up a way to handle them that he was satisfied with.
“All Orcs are always evil” thing but he never got around to cooking up a way to handle them that he was satisfied with.
I did kind of appreciate how Tolkien tried to mention Orcs as having villages and such in the ROTK when Sam and Frodo were traipsing around, but there was very little detail outside of it being mentioned in passing. I do wish more had been done with that, it would (maybe) have made those takes harder to have
From what I understand Gygax didn't like Tolkien that much and only included a bunch of Tolkien elements due to popular pressure. Old school D&D Alignment was a mess, I'm glad it's more or less been thrown in to the dust bin.
You mean the time when Gary Gygax labelled John Chivington's actions (responsible for the Sand Creek Massacre) as "Lawful Good" because Chivington believed native Americans were inherently "evil"? Yeah...
Even with the context, it's still ideologically bankrupt. Gygax was trying to make a point that someone being labelled LG doesn't necessarily translate as "good" to us, just to the contemporary society. But even if you think within his own logic, and the actual events in 1864, it still just falls apart and shows that the ideology system is poorly thought out and betrays Gygax's own subconscious.
I can already tell she's a poser when she considers the civilized, peace-loving folk as an orc equivalent and the warlike "smart bad muscle good" hordes as the elf equivalent.
HOWEVER, it’s of course taken from Tolkien’s source material, when a call to action WAS valid. The Nazis were starting to build in numbers, and nations around it should have stepped in sooner. It’s just interesting that because so much time has passed, the source material has come to mean something completely different.
Neocons and warhawks always like to appeal to WW2's appeasement era when talking down to the less-bloodthirsty in regards to military intervention, so it wouldn't be the first time. They've been equating Iran to Nazi Germany as far back as the Ahmadinejad presidency, for example. I imagine the same was true about Saddam Hussein's Iraq.
Fascists think themselves as the elves (and in some extent, they're right) when in reality they are the orcs.
Saw this on lemmygrad
we live in interesting times
Isn't that first one just Lily from Pokemon? Also this doesn't really surprise me with 4chan being the place for far-righters to hang out.
Mari Ohara, actually. Which still means she's choosing a literal child to represent herself lol
