I saw an official account using Lenin “telling the Bolsheviks to vote for liberals” to justify voting democrat too :data-laughing:
It is 2016, I am reading a post citing Lenin on the early Labour party as proof that voting for a Democratic president is the objectively communist action to take.
It is 2018, I am reading a post citing Lenin on the early Labour party as proof that voting for Democrats in the midterms is the objectively communist action to take.
It is 2020, I am reading a post citing Lenin on the early Labour party as proof that voting for a Democratic president is the objectively communist action to take.
It is 2022, I am reading a post citing Lenin on the early Labour party as proof that voting for Democrats in the midterms is the objectively communist action to take.
It is 2024...
Just write in "Stalin" for every election you don't want to think about.
Last election my Vote was for "Julian Assange, free him!"
Really feeling protected by you pressing some buttons on a touchpad every 2 years, for real thanks for your overwhelming support
i think liberals hate me more for voting for third-party socialists than if I voted straight ticket republican
Correct. Liberals' minds break when they're forced to overtly punch left.
You wasted your afternoon voting while iwatered my plants, which one of us is the real winner????
They're not even doing electorialism right. If they want to play the electoral game, it makes far more sense to be a regional party that exclusively focuses on a particular state or particular region within a state. Instead of wasting people's time and money on presidential candidates that are guaranteed to fail, why not focus on mayoral and state legislature races? You can not possibly hope to match the two parties in resources for national elections, but for regional elections, it's possible to eke out a win be funneling everything on a particular local election that's considered unimportant by the two parties. This was what happened to Seattle city council with Sawant.
"Bourgeois elections can be used as a platform to advocate for socialism" doesn't mean you have to run for president. There's never going to be a socialist president or a socialist governor or even a socialist mayor for major cities like NYC or LA. But a city councilperson or member of a state legislature is actually doable. A mayoral or city council election is as much of a platform, and unlike running for president or governor, the viability of a third party means people would be more invested in the outcome and thus, more receptive towards what you're advocating for.
NYC did have a DSA member as mayor, David Dinkins from 1990 to 1993. Although on top of his name that sounds fictional, he was a cop apologist and generally sucked. Even still the city council worked against him and set up Guiliani to become mayor.
There was also Thomas Van Lear, socialist mayor of Minneapolis 1917 to 1919. He spent his entire time in office trying to stop the cops from killing everyone in a labor union. Then he lost his re-election and became a liberal cheerleader for Woodrow Wilson.
you're right that any electoral victories gotta focus on the lower offices first. Getting to executive offices is pointless if there's no base of support.
The DSA is kind of doing that in Chicago. They had six people on city council, out of 50, but one guy got booted from DSA because he voted to approve the cop school our dumb ass mayor wants to build.
That's actually a good look from the Chicago DSA. Any American socialist party is screwed if it doesn't have the ability and willingness to expel representatives that go against the party line.
This may be news to you, but the Democratic party participates in municipal and state level elections, and using your voice in those elections and primaries can get socialist ideas and policies recognition
I've had people use Lenin suggesting using the British Labour party to spread revolutionary class consciousness in the early 20th century as proof British leftists should all vote for :tory:, the brainworms run deep.
A British Labour party that literally had not even won an election yet, and was 2 years out from becoming the actual major opposition party to the Tories.
And even then Lenin was talking about how it would be a short term tactic to take advantage of the rise and inevitable opportunistic betrayal of this party that is aligned with imperialism and the bourgeoise through its leadership, while its membership were majority and cohesively organized working class.
Query: How does voting for the party that has consciously decided not to use their majority to codify key LGBT+ civil rights into law protect LGBT comrades?
Don’t vote if you have to work that day,
fuck that, force your shit boss to give you the mandated time off to vote and then go fuck his mistress and his parents
That's a trot, right? With the Fourth International button on the fedora?
Some offense but if any tendency deserves that headwear it's the newspapers-and-debatelording tendency lol
I think the two soy crying ones are supposed to represent Trots and...Maoists? Not sure if that's the MLM type or modern proponents of Chinese socialism. Really odd choice of opponents.
It's like a weird glimpse into American leftist in-fighting from 40 years ago back when it was all newspaper turf.
Why would they even want the kind of person who'd sign up over a tweet like that lmao
seeing stuff like this from cpusa is making me think it’s full of liberals more and more, though the fbi trying to sabotage cpusa multiple times throughout its history definitely compromised cpusa and contributed to the liberalism in the party :(
I just- holy fuck
They're STILL coming back to this?
Like, every fucking year now a new version of this conversation happens and is literally always resolved with "assigning any value to voting for a liberal democratic party is fucking stupid"... but they KEEP coming back? How? Why? What is there left to examine or uncover? Who the fuck cares?
