Bolsonaro didn't win in the first round of the elections, but got a million more votes than last time.
Some of the worst, most vile pieces of human filth who ensured that we lost more than half a million people during the pandemic... were also elected. People seem to mostly vote for people whose names they can identify among the literal hundreds of candidates nobody has ever heard of. Liberal media has been blaring these names on repeat for the past four years, and today we're seeing the results of platforming this filth. Whoops! Totally not intentional, sorry about that.
Our entire congress is now full of covid deniers, chuds, religious fundamentalists, conservative subcelebrities, only the worst of the worst - we managed to outdo ourselves and our last major election cycle was when we elected the most right-wing congress since the dictatorship years.
We elected a health minister who was the butt of plenty of jokes because of how incompetent he was. We elected the piece of shit judge that put Lula in jail on spurious charges, and we also elected his main co-conspirator, a shitty, incompetent local DA. We elected the environment minister who supervised the destruction of the Amazon rainforest. We elected them. The people chose willingly to either keep these people in power, or to make them even more powerful.
Even if Lula wins in the second round (as he probably will), he will be besieged from day one, and will probably be impeached or worse. Then we'll get his vice-president, a right-wing liberal who was a major opponent until not very long ago. He'll just play along with the rest of the human garbage that's now our political sphere. Even if Bolsonaro loses, bolsonarismo wins.
I thought I'd be able to joker-laugh at what's happened here today, but... I can't. I simply can't. This is my country circling the drain, without any semblance of an organized worker's movement. No unions, no strikes, no protests, no rights. We expected some kind of relief, reprieve from the utter destruction and concession of our country to the worst of the worst in capitalism, and we got... this.
It's really hard to be here right now. I'm this close to selling everything, packing my bags and saying goodbye to my beautiful home, because it's now more than ever being ransacked and sold to the highest bidder. I'm done. I'm not even jokerfied, I've just switched fully into doomer mode. This country is finished. It's theirs now, to do as they please.
There is now no way out for this country that doesn't involve lots of [REDACTED].
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it seems like the near future of the international proletarian movement is almost entirely reliant on the CPC not fucking up and that's pretty worrying. there's that Lenin quote about weeks where decades happen, etc but things are looking extremely dire right now. :doomer:
Expect CPC to just gradually increase privatization as other global liberal market economies falter and PRC is able to keep on with their market economy hot streak.
Best case they actually become communist through some series of reforms - they won't export it.
I don't think the former is going to happen as long as Xi is in power.
Of course it’s dire. Which is why f*cling Russia have to come out on top of this. They actually make a play to make other country to dump dollar to defend their currencies, not just willy nilly. As long as the US have a huge privilege of printing money infinitely, it’s hard to have any international proletarian movements. Because they could just shut it down by funding the other side with their infinite paper, by shut that down, they’ll not have that privilege anymore, including their sanction game
I don't know what to say beyond that's fucked, I'm sorry.
Love and solidarity from the good ol' USA, I've been feeling the same way about the drain-circling too
There is now no way out for this country that doesn’t involve lots of [REDACTED].
This is the sad truth everywhere though, people can post :fedposting: all they like but the reality is between a revolution which is intrinsicaly a violent act(and these days would mean more casualties than some wars) and adventurism there is realy no way out of this.
Electorialism is not even the main problem, if you had 200 years just keep rolling the dice until things magicaly improve right? Be a lib and it is easier and more confortable.
But we don't even have that, climate change will destroy the world, in Brazil for instance the Amazon will become a desert, and large parts of the already poor Northeast will become completely uninhabitable.
We have maybe maybe 20-30 years at best to change the fate of the world and yes being a doomer is the only logical conclusion.
I've long said that the BRICS is a god damn scam(standing against imperialism is good but also very limited) and only China and Russia have any meaningful possibilities of a revolution and building some sort of socialism. And as far as Russia goes they are not even any good either, I'm basicaly just betting on their soviet legacy to make some sort of difference in the future which is already copium.
Yes most people would be right to say that the fate of the world rests on the Chinese workers and that is a massive copium too since China foreign policy fluctuates between mediocre to completely uninterested in power struggles abroad.
yeah, this is pretty much exactly how i'm feeling too. i thought we'd see a somewhat convincing Lula victory and roughly the same (ghoulish) people in congress. that'd give the radical left some breathing room and maybe allow us to actually make a dent in 2026. that'd have been our chance to turn this country around. turns out i was wildy over optimistic.
i like this country way more than i should, but i don't think i can deal with this shit for a decade plus. gonna focus on being able to move abroad. truly heartbroken for working class brazilians who chose not to shoot themselves on the foot. i'm floored.i don't get this
what do you mean breathing room? since when have the PT libs given us breathing room? don't you remember what haddad did in 2013, siding with PSDB when their cops beat the fuck out of us? whatever happens lula's government will be weak as shit, and we're gonna have to protest and keep doing our direct action, and the state will keep crushing us all the same because 1) lula being elected wouldn't change the nature of the military police and the quickly degrading state of our bourgeois democracy, 2) trust me those fucking libs will support the repression calling us "fifth column of imperialism" and saying other ridiculous 3rd world liberal trash talking points
I still think there's probably rampant voter fraud adding like 5-10% more votes. Bolsonaro wasn't consulting Israeli firms for nothing.
If he loses even with extra fraudulent votes, at least it'll be funny.
It was definitely sus that the CIA director went there and the media reported that he was like "Hey Jair, don't say the election is rigged against you, just play cool"
Lula might win, but Bolsonaro will win harder. When Lula takes the presidency (if he even wins on the second round...) he will have an "hostile parliament", he wont be able to do much, he'll have to compromise A LOT in order to achieve anything and hang on until the next election cycle (mid-terms I think are in 2024). Bolsonaro *might * lose this election, but his base is intact, well it actually grew.
This is it sadly, South American leftists and progressives fell asleep, took a really nice and long siesta and allowed (some say willingly) the defeated right-wing movements to make a comeback. It's a real battleground here. And now I feel like the left is in a state of shock, and has been for quite a while now. It's happening pretty much everywhere, here in Argentina we're brewing our very own Bolsonaro and few are even trying to stop it. The global context doesn't help either, not long ago the Fascist elected in Italy spoke with the Spanish Far-Right party "Vox" on "how we should help those in South America fighting against Communism right now", once again, foreign and local actors gearing up to make us all disappear. Our very own existence is at risk, this takes us back to the 1970s.
Not all is lost though: Organize, if we stand still they win, if we organize they lose. Nothing is easy, there will be a lot of violence, but do we have any other way out? Our generation, my generation, is pretty much gone, but there's still some fight inside of us. We might not establish a just system ourselves, we might not get to live in a Communist world, but we can certainly fight for the future generations that will.
Hey if you wanna come down to Argentina shits looking exactly the same but with less evangelists in direct power
Solidarity from the USA, we passed that point decades ago :desolate: :joker-amerikkklap: :amerikkka: :joker-amerikkklap: :desolate:
Then we’ll get his vice-president, a right-wing liberal who was a major opponent until not very long ago.
Dilma all over again huh
instead of going doomer mode because of elections why don't you use this as the moment when you realize the only way to change things is through direct action
and i'm not talking only about protests and strikes; it's even more basic than that, the biggest reason why we get so fucked by evangelicals is the dense support network they've created in the favelas
support network that we should be creating - and some of us are, you should join us
it's a long way, but it's the only way - elections won't save you, they're made to not work, especially in brazil
That sounds like what happened to us in Guatemala. Colom won with Evangelical nutcases in every other branch. It lead to a "soft" neoliberalism. It's sad to see a country with as much promise as Brazil slowly turning into us, but a part of me also believes the left in Brazil isn't entirely doomed.
People seem to mostly vote for people whose names they can identify among the literal hundreds of candidates nobody has ever heard of.
they used the same jillion candidate strategy against Bernie
they packed it with like 26 candidates. they only needed to consolidate after stopping him from resoundingly win the first primaries
Yep, reevaluating my plans to get away from here asap. How much time do you recon before shit really hits the fan? Because there's honestly no hope. The left is dead apart from Lula, and this country has as much revolutionary potential as the fucking US.
And where did that lead you? :back-to-me:
On a more serious note, I wish you the very best here from the imperial core.
I don't know very much about Brazil and please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like this situation has a lot in common with many other places, in that:
- All media of any significance are controlled by the bourgeoisie, which results in no loyal press coverage for the left, or even the centre.
- The fash gives people something, like evangelical sociapaths giving humanitarian aid to the poor while the left has no similar forms of organising to speak of.
