hOW many librals . . Does it take too change light? bulb
NONE!.! theyre to busy. THEIR GENDER 🤣🤣🤣
you joke, but...
I found a thread for this in a Harley-Davidson forum and one of the responses opened with
They can't even figure out what gender they want to be.
They don't know how to drive a manual.beyond parody
At least there's one person in there who at least kinda gets it:
- Millennials aren't swayed by the image Harley markets and sells to attract new buyers.
- Harley waited way too long to try to do anything to update their product line to attract the interest of Millennials.
- Harley priced themselves out of the Millennial market with new offerings geared towards the millennial crowd. Imports are still much cheaper and with much higher levels of performance and quality control.
- Most Millenials think the majority of Harley riders are middle aged posers desperately trying to recapture their youth. They can't be swayed by the marketing.
Most Millenials think the majority of Harley riders are middle aged posers desperately trying to recapture their youth
Are they wrong lmao? Every person I see on a Harley has gray hair
You could swap “Harley” for “Gibson” and it would all still be true.
Never been much of a gearhead, so I wasn't even aware there was Gibson discourse! Are sales of Epiphones/Gibsons on the decline? They're nice guitars, I suppose, but I prefer a thinner neck myself.
Yeah, QC on Gibsons has been real bad recently, management doesnt know how to run the place, they cement tjeir reputation as the dentist's brand by putting out expensive signatures, and the quality of epiphone is bypassing the Gibsons theyre meant to be cheap copies of
The good thing about guitars is that there's no shortage of really good ones on the secondary market that have just been in storage for twenty years and need to be cleaned up a bit. At least that was the case when I bought my last one threeish years ago.
Not sure about sales, but Gibson pretty heavily markets on the boomer nostalgia/“prestige” factor. Their line up is stale, the don’t adjust for modern specs and features younger guitarists are looking for. They’re not bad guitars, but the prices are inflated relative to the quality.
Perfect example, they recently released a recreation of the ‘59 humbuckers, for a thousand dollars. Not a whole guitar, just pickups. There’s no good reason for pickup set to be over like $400, maybe $500 dollars .
They're kinda crap quality and appeal to all the Clapton stans mostly
Oh my god, that man isn't dead yet? He was already firmly cemented as being Dad Music in the 80's, even before he became a world-renowned child safety expert.
Most Millenials think the majority of Harley riders are middle aged posers desperately trying to recapture their youth. They can't be swayed by the marketing.
What marketing lmao, Harley's marketing is all FLAMES and SKULLS and AMERICAN FLAGS and CRANKING MY HOG
Their brand image is synonymous with weird boomers
Holy duck what a torching on the Harley ego
Edit: I'm not changing that duck to fuck
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I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
I'm pretty sure they do in fact hand out participation trophies and recognition plaques just for buying one lmao
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Grew up in Milwaukee
Had to put up with Harley Days
Entire city gets put on hiatus for 100,000 bikers to roar downtown and make absolute shitasses of themselves
Fuck all the way off
motorcycles
bicycles
also ngl I thought this was fake, but regardless of whether it is or not this Harley forum was eating it up.
One of my favorite exchanges:
what i think would attract the younger riders into buying is show sexy young women posing on the bikes in there advertisements...
nope. Have to make an app for it, and showcase it in a video game. These youngsters wouldnt know what to do with a good woman if she sat on their faces.
the absolute state of boomerbrains
oh my god am I going to become this hilariously out of touch some day? oh nooooooooooooooooooooo
climate change take me
:hibbert-laugh: OhohohoNo. The wealthier, more hilariously out of touch part of your generational cohort is going to outlive you and be the only ones left
As a millennial literally shopping around for a motorcycle right now: Your shit is easily 2-3x what a comparable Japanese bike costs. Update your shit to not be comically overpriced and I might think about it. But as it stands, the only way I'll ever ride a Harley is if I get it for free and even then I'd sell it for a Ducati or something like it
I've contemplated buying a bike, Harleys start at double what you'd pay for an equivalent Honda. You can crank two hogs for the price of one.
I haven't decided yet. A standard or cruiser would be great but a sport bike is calling to me. A more "sensible" part of me wants a dual sport so I can more safely ride it in the winter however flawed that thinking is. I would love any recommendations if you have them.
Is it your first bike? If so, the best one is one that you'll get a lot of hours riding, and usually that means a secondhand Japanese model. Ninjas are a meme for a good reason, they go fast and last a long time and don't do anything that they don't need to. Their equivalents from other companies, the GSX-R and the CBR, are basically exactly the same bike, just pick the size you're comfortable with and go for it (my first bike was a 750 so don't start on a liter bike but also don't feel like you need to start on a 250).
I would also recommend looking at Royal Enfield if top speed isn't as important for you - they're the best value for money in the industry and it isn't even close, but they primarily target the Indian market which has fewer highways so their bikes are slower, but are more useable in less than ideal road conditions. I think RE is still doing the 3 year warranty thing too, which is more than anybody else does because they're trying to shake off their reputation for making shitboxes (which wasn't entirely undeserved, but it's a new era now).
Just be sure to keep an eye on your used market for a while before making up your mind, you'll get a sense of what's a deal and what's overpriced, and don't buy it unless you can test ride it first.
Funny enough, an older Japanese bike was my first. But it stopped running after it sat outside too long during some housing issues. It's been a few years and I've got the itch to ride again. No matter what I'll be riding the hell out of it since it'll be my primary mode of transportation.
I had never actually looked at RE because of my aversion to supporting England but hot shit are their bikes cheaper than I expected. Hurray, even more choices to paralyze myself over
I had never actually looked at RE because of my aversion to supporting England
Good news! The English part of RE went bunk in the 60s, the company is 100% Indian now. That's the reason why they're so cheap - RE makes about as many motorcycles as all of the European brands do combined, so they have a serious economy of scale advantage in addition to the advantage of being a hundred years old.
I saw that after looking at some of their bikes and was much happier. They have some sweet looking designs too. The scram 411 and shotgun 650 look good. I'll have to test them at a local dealership
I ride a cafe racer but my use case is strictly as a toy. I have a sensible daily driver that gets good gas mileage and gets me to the grocery store. I don't ever have to ride in weather if I don't want to.
I don't think a dual sport gets you riding in the winter. That's a good use case if you like to go on trails and such. I wouldn't recommend riding in any ice conditions. Even if your motorcycle is your only mode of transportation, honestly, I'd call an Uber if it's icy.
Half of buying a bike is finding one you think looks cool 🙂.
I have access to vehicles if I need to but I stubbornly love riding through shitty weather. I rode through two winters on my previous bike although I do acknowledge it was pretty stupid. I never had to ride in snowy or icy conditions thankfully.
I'm from an area that classically gets a ton of snow but based on the last few years I'm not sure how true that will be for long
Was gonna say I feel like a know a decent number of people my age with bikes, but they generally go for foreign racing models, biker-bikes are just less popular.
Harley Davidson’s are overpriced pieces of shit riding on name recognition/nostalgia.
100%. They tried to patent their stupid idle sound that saps horsepower from the engine. They cost like 2-3x what they should for performance.
Just jumping in to dunk on Harleys on particular. What a bullshit price for one of the worst motorcycles out there. Seriously, get a Honda or a crotchrocket if you're feeling a little flashy.
don't get a trophy or recognition plaque just for buying one
This is a post about Harley-Davidson, a brand that basically sells itself as a lifestyle and that every boomer who buys one turns into their entire personality
That's about as close to a recognition plaque as you can get
I fuckin' loathe loud ass motorcycle assholes. there's a couple of real shit birds that periodically rip down my sleepy street where kids play.
I fantasize about rigging up some kind engineered high-tensile monofilament line that I could pull tight at 4' and pull down rapidly and taking their fucking heads.
I think motorcycles are cool, but Harley pricks with their overloud fartsleds are assholes.
I’m not buying a Harley because I want something that can make it out of the parking lot, actually
i hereby proclaim that every generation after millennials are also millennials forever henceforth!
no gods no generations.
i mean that's what they think anyways lets make this official
You can really feel the anger in this.
Way to angry to be funny.
I'm a millennial and I fukken love my motorcycle. The reason millennials aren't riding is because none of the major brands stepped up to the plate to offer an entry level bike for $5k and market that fucker - among millennials in America, motorcycles are synonymous with enormous $30k weekend machines that can't replace a car therefore making it a 100% luxury purchase.
Same thing happened with electric motorcycles. A millennial might consider an electric moto to get around town with even if it doesn't have a huge range or speed - just look at eBikes - but the offerings from the major manufacturers are all trying to be cutting edge flagship machines with a premium price point, and nobody is going to drop big money on an advanced motorcycle unless they've been riding for a while already (and the boomers and Xers who've been riding for a while all think that electricity is for beta males).
Give it time and Chinese electric motorcycles will reach Western markets, and Harley will beg the Trump admin for a tarriff on them, only to continue to refuse to actually bring an entry level electric motorcycle of their own to market. Maybe we'll get lucky and a Taiwanese company will evade the tariff, or the Japanese companies will finally step up to the plate and put some out there as they fight China for the export market around the rest of the Pacific, but I kinda think that roadgoing motorcycles are on the way out in the USA and it would take a major cultural shift to change that (dirt bikes and atvs should be fine).
In kunming they had ranks upon ranks of hire ebikes and the streets were packed with them. It was amazing.
Norway sucks, but one great thing about Oslo was the adoption of escooters that meant you could ride anywhere and just leave the scooter basically anywhere. The freedom it afforded was incredible. They even had a fun mini game you played on the app when it suspected you might have just left a bar and might possibly be drunk.
Anyway. Fun times
Fucking stick shift and clutch perverts are pathetic. Automatic transmission is older than I am and considering yourself superior because you can use long obsolete technology is fucking stupid. Bet you can't drive an ox wagon, buttercup!
- You have to shift manually and use something called a clutch.
They would know after decades of clutching their pearls.
If you're driving a shitbox already I will strenuously defend the value of having it be manual. My starter died Monday in the middle of a road trip to see the eclipse and I just bump started it until I got back home. Unfortunately they are no longer cheaper to maintain than autos since replacing the clutch is usually an absurd amount of labor even if parts are cheaper.
But it's not hard to learn. A 15-speed bicycle is more confusing. Anyone can buy a stick shift and be getting themselves around within a couple weeks, the only reason Americans don't know how is most of the cars are automatic.
This is true of shitboxes, but the funny thing about manual people now is that pretty much every modern manual transmission is computer-aided at least and a placebo at worst.
I still prefer having one to not having it though, it makes the driving funnerer.
my favorite is the 100% fake EV manual transmission patents. They're afraid to add any new input methods. Like CVT cars should have a way to set the desired RPM so you can choose how much power is ready to go
Manuals are absolutely not obsolete technology in many parts of the world. It's only really in the USA where every car is automatic.
Not really everyone wants to afford an automatic car if they just use it for a commute. Manual cars suck in rush hour traffic. For off road 4×4 vehicles and other utility vehicles, a good 6 speed manual, with a transfer case with low range and a set of locking differentials offers you the ability to get pretty much anywhere and is much less complicated than some electronic 4 wheel drive system.
However if you do your licence test in an automatic car, you get a license that only allows you to drive automatics. So almost everyone does their test in a manual car, and knows how to drive manual at some point.
facts; if electric motorcycles were affordable and available for the MSF (motorcycle safety course) near me, I'd probably be riding a bike out on the streets by now.
I'm not better than anyone, I just can't concentrate on driving if my hand isn't fidgeting with the clutch the whole time
