• LaBellaLotta [any]
    hexbear
    46
    2 months ago

    Like this means anything other than they are abject failures in engaging new voters

    • Adkml [he/him]
      hexbear
      29
      2 months ago

      At a certain point they're gonna overplay their hand and people (not libs obviously but people capable of complex thought) are going to completely write off anybody putting out endless articles that boil down to "don't support genocide? Here's why you're worse than people who do!"

      • @Sons_of_Ferrix
        hexbear
        3
        2 months ago

        but people capable of complex thought

        So like, 5% of the US populace?

  • Melonius [he/him]
    hexbear
    45
    2 months ago

    A Biden for Trump is a vote for vote. The more you Trump the less you vote.

  • emizeko [they/them]
    hexbear
    41
    2 months ago

    I will vote for Biden once for each of the beheaded babies he saw, so I will vote for him zero times

  • quarrk [he/him]
    hexbear
    34
    2 months ago

    Don't think you need a PhD in statistics to understand that you can't reverse causality like this

    Being a liberal causes you to vote =/= voting causes you to be a liberal

    • FungiDebord [none/use name]
      hexbear
      4
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      he's just making the descriptive observation, not making a prescriptive claim, right?

      • quarrk [he/him]
        hexbear
        5
        2 months ago

        If the average person read “the more basketballs you shoot, the more you are an NBA player” I think many would read it as a causal relationship that operates at the individual level.

        I mean strictly speaking it’s not incorrect, but I just know this author wants to scare people into voting as if it affects their political views.

        When Marx said, ”the human essence is no abstraction inherent in each single individual. In its reality it is the ensemble of social relations,” I think it’s coming from a similar standpoint of incommensurability between aggregates and individuals. There may be an “average voter” as a statistical object, but it does not exist as a real individual.

        • FungiDebord [none/use name]
          hexbear
          3
          2 months ago

          i appreciate the comment. i don't know how i interpreted your comment, or how i ended up addressing it.

          i think i agree with what you're saying, i'm surprised that the author would be attached to the headline, which is weirdly normatively charged, for what i assume is now a not unsurprising observation that recently lower turnout elections have swung the Dems way.

  • Weedian [he/him]
    hexbear
    32
    2 months ago

    Am I supposed to be voting more than once?

    Also I am voting, for Afroman

    • FunkyStuff [he/him]
      hexbear
      22
      2 months ago

      Yes, you may vote multiple times. You can not vote for Biden which is a vote for Trump, as many times as you wish.

    • TheModerateTankie [any]
      hexbear
      17
      2 months ago

      If you don't want Trump to win, vote for Afroman. A vote for Biden is a vote for Trump.

    • Adkml [he/him]
      hexbear
      17
      2 months ago

      Well according to libs not voting for Biden is a vote for Trump.

      Which means not voting for Trump is also a vote for Biden.

      Which means if you don't vote for either of them you actually voted twice.

      Which means you're half as likely to support Trump as the liberals who just voted ONCE by simply voting for Biden.

      I'm starting to think their logic may be flawed here.

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
      hexbear
      1
      2 months ago

      Well duh. You’re not committing voter fraud for Biden this year? And you call yourself a communist? Comrade Biden would be disappointed.

  • maccruiskeen [he/him]
    hexbear
    30
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    so the more you vote the more you back biden, so by voting for trump you are actually voting for biden more than you are voting for trump imaginator

    • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
      hexbear
      11
      2 months ago

      Amazed how that was swept under the rug by liberals when Bernie would get crucified for using the word “black.”

  • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
    hexbear
    20
    2 months ago

    I had always planned on voting, just not for Biden. I'll be voting PSL if they're on my ballot, and writing in some joke about my balls or asshole if they aren't.

  • AutomatedPossum [she/her]
    hexbear
    19
    2 months ago

    I don't exactly get what's surprising about the "my optics are flinging poop" guy pulling more nonvoters than the bloodless donor class appeaser.

    Also Dems should be fucking scared how strongly their success with PoC voters is tied to these people being regulars at the polls. The "has voted 0-2 times" set includes a ton of young people who haven't been of voting age for 12 years, and these are overrepresented among nonwhite demographics.

    • PKMKII [none/use name]
      hexbear
      13
      2 months ago

      Yeah the data here for Hispanics should be a giant alarm going off for the party.

  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
    hexbear
    18
    2 months ago

    Ah but by not voting for Trump, I'm voting for Biden. In fact, I'm not voting every single day. You're welcome liberals, you mask-off fascist ghouls.

  • KoboldKomrade [he/him]
    hexbear
    16
    2 months ago

    Explains why Trump got 0 votes in 2016. After all, if he got any votes it would feedback and he would have gotten INT_MAX instead.

  • eight [it/its]
    hexbear
    16
    2 months ago

    so the democratic party is now the party that benefits most from low voter turnout - how democratic

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
    hexbear
    15
    2 months ago

    Well duh, most Republicans don't give a shit about local politics because they already hold most of those seats because they overwhelmingly outnumber Democrats outside of cities

    This is like looking at the sea and going "The more time you spend in the water, the more likely you like to swim"

  • Sasuke [comrade/them]
    hexbear
    15
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    okay, so as someone with a liberal MA in 4d critical voting theory, what this essentially means is that anyone who wants four more years of biden should stay home in november so that biden will have more support among non voters. that way, the power of not voting shifts so that not voting for trump becomes a vote for biden, and votes that are not cast in the physical space are not bound be the limitations of the ballot-box, meaning that you can vote for biden several times by not voting for trump