I think everyone who's been here more than a week or two has had multiple negative interactions with them.
Awful, reactionary posters. We might as well start advertising on red website if we stay fedded with them.
I may be wrong here, but my impression is that more and more good people from other instances have been showing up here lately?
If that really is the case we should welcome them, not lock them out
Yeah, I've also noticed more @ users with decent opinions lately
there's also that one based user from some mastodon instance that somehow federated with us
edit: @CARCOSA@hexbear.net (not) sorry for ping (nerd) but how does that one work?
Yeah, I think I know the one you mean, that user is from the mastodon part of tchncs.de too
yea that's the one, i'm not exactly sure of the mechanism. but we're definitely gaining some new, good, @wherever users, which is I THINK is something people here want, right?
Besides the technical question of mastodon and lemmy interacting, I thought hexbear was a whitelist system anyways
Daily active user numbers on hexbear have almost doubled since federation started, we used to have a stable count of about 500 active users per day and now we're at about 900. It's arguable how much of a good thing that is - churn in users is a necessity to not let the site turn stale, but growth at such a pace will lead to changes in site culture that aren't always for the better.
So, just to make sure i understand you correctly, there's still a jump from 300-500 active posters a day to 500-700? And it's the increase to 800-900 that is due to including upbears?
ya i been seeing that too, i don't necessarily want to defed from db0 but i'm interested in what other hexians think.
I want to give the admin a fuckin swirly but otherwise there some decent folks there.
They have some bad posters and some good ones too. Mostly disagree on defedding this one.
I am curious to see if all the Hexbears that never post come out in full force for defederation here like they did last time. Lots of folks in that thread all doom and gloom about how if we don't defed they'll never post again. So we did. And most of them never posted again anyway. Curious to see if suddenly they'll all come back for this conversation too.
I usually don't reply to these threads because I don't really have a strong opinion, but it sounds like maybe there needs to be some shrugs to help outweigh the defed vote.
I agree that they shouldn't be defedded, but I disagree with your statement on the people opposed to federation. Lurkers' experience matters just as much as posters', and the site dies without either. I believe the threat was always that they'd stop using the site, not so much that they'd stop posting.
They are where the majority of votes come from, not to mention that if you take a histogram of how many of the total share of comments are made by what % of users, even though the top 10% of commenters will have made the majority of comments, the site really needs those people that make occasional contributions.
No I like dbzer0 they just have some annoying lib users. Its not where I go to have high quality discussions but the memes are fine and a lot of the people are pretty good, some even comrades. I was looking at a post dragging HB, and there was one user who was malding about us and everyone else was like, "nah they're good"
Do you mean the "surprise, Russia is reactionary" one or is it one I couldn't find?
There are some good ones, and the few bad ones will just get mocked and banned anyway
I remember the turmoil of the Great Federation, now we're basically as isolated as we were prior. A few people commenting nonsense don't bother me, especially with how quick either the mods or other posters get to them. Maybe if you sort by 'all' it could be an issue, but you just can block all of their comms at that point.
Maybe if you sort by 'all' it could be an issue
I think I'll switch my default sort back to local, thanks for the idea.
you can also switch to subscribed if you are sub to any lemmygrad comms so your feed becomes hexbear/lemmygrad
You can also block the instance if you want to keep "all" but without db0 content
I disagree. Piracy is cool, and it keeps the more obnoxious libs out because libs are corporate shills who brag about paying slop at full price. As long as /c/piracy is still around, I think it's worth federating with them.
As someone who frequently complains about db0, hates the instance, and has blocked the owner after many pages of trying to get them to stop being a bad faith, nihilistic piece of shit . . . I don't see defederation accomplishing anything. Just block the really annoying ones and win over the rest.
No - why can't you just report any reactionary dbzero comment or user you see on Hexbear. We need at least one other decently active instance to be federated with otherwise I'm just gonna see the same 4 users posts daily.
Idk I'm fine with them if you're gonna defed because of a few bad lib/reactionary interactions you'd have to defed everybody except lemmygrad probably, which is also valid I guess but I personally disagree with that.
Idk the admins of lemmygrad are pretty ass though I do like the users
We have the best admins, folks
Fr tho all the other instances have ass admins
If "having libs" was the criteria for defederation, then hexbear would have to tear itself apart
I think we should keep them around, just ban the problematic users.
IDK, I am usually on the side of avoiding defed for instances that aren't tolerating bigotry or harassment anyways. But dbzero is an anarchist instance, even if there are a lot of the stereotypical "anarkiddies" that think anarchism is more progressive liberalism with punk aesthetics. I have seen both comrades and shitlibs in that instance.
IDK, I am usually on the side of avoiding defed for instances that aren't tolerating bigotry or harassment anyways.
They are, tho. Last time we had a discussion about one of their bad take havers, one of their mods outright mansplained to me why using gay as an insult isn't homophobic.
Just ban the bad ones imo. Unless the mods are egregiously transphobic
Yeah I don't think we should defed them. They're mostly harmless and I've seen plenty of good ones over here.
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