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FYI make sure to at least watch this in an incognito window
they should settle this by getting in cars and driving directly towards each other at top speed until they crash.
This is no joke the funniest thing I've read on this website. :michael-laugh:
I understand why Mao forcibly sent so many academics out to the countryside to work in agriculture.
They sure form the priesthood class of capital, so I think they fit within intelligensia, but not academics in the traditional sense
LetThemFight
V*ush going into "Noble gases are bourgeoisie" is not something I expected to see; the dipshit never ceases to amaze with shit takes.
Destiny calling out Vaush for being a pedo was pretty funny too. Vaush kept using all these academic words to say, "I hit on an underage girl because I'm a pervert with no sense of restraint. Also I'm polyamorous and sexually liberated, so fuck you for kinkshaming me."
let's let v*aush play with some superheavy elements and he can tell us if they are real. bare hands
I don’t care about either of these guys and think watching (and posting) streamers should be banned, but :funny-clown-hammer: isn’t wrong here. He never says it’s arbitrary, he’s just saying the arrangement of the periodic table is a human construct that is based on deeper truths. That’s correct.
Not even the ordering, he says the clustering is arbitrary (but based on common properties). Which true not even even just in some abstract sense, I believe branches of physics have their own clustering of the periodic table based on properties useful in those branches!
I did chemistry in college and encountered a few alternate tables, yeah. I had a physics major classmate who used some kind of 3D model I didn't recognize and that seemed cool. The alternate model I liked the most was the Benfey table.
Most alternate periodic tables have the massive problem of failing to intuitively reference three things at once: atomic number, valency, and molecular weight. Those are the most commonly referenced properties in chemistry and physics, so that's probably why the standard Mendeleev table is still around. It's easiest to look up a number if it's arranged in rows and columns. Every alternate model table I've seen has to sacrifice something. Like the Benfey table is better at showing valency, and it's the only table I've seen that shows hydrogen is actually similar to a halogen rather than sitting above the alkali metals. Benfey's table groups together certain properties in a better way than the Mendeleev table, but yeah try looking up molecular weight in a spiral.
The problem with saying it's an aribtrary grouping is that the arrangement is based off of the properties of elements that have the most effect on the world. If an alien existed at a similar scale to us, they would weight those factors identically.
As you touched on, all of the (useful) alternative periodic tables are essentially derivatives of tge mendeleev table.
there's a good scifi novel from 1980, Dragon's Egg by author and physicist Robert L. Forward. It's about contact between humans and a species of aliens, the cheela, who live on the surface of a neutron star. They're the size of a sesame seed and they live at an accelerated pace, described at around one million times faster than humans. The entire contact between cheela and humans takes place over 23 hours of human time, which is thousands of years in cheela time.
Because they live on a neutron star with much higher gravity than earth and at hotter temperatures, it's mentioned briefly they have a different conception of chemistry that's more centered on attributes like strong nuclear force and gravity waves rather than how we focus on atomic mass and electromagnetism.
It's a cool book you might like
I typed a response like this one initially, then deleted it because i watched a little further in the clip where :funny-clown-hammer: starts calling it "arbitrary" repeatedly.
Yeah honestly I don’t have the stamina to watch more than a couple of minutes of this sort of thing
Funny thing is, there's was a decently-large post in trans twitter today being like "look, I promise V*ush isn't as bad as you think" (he's kinda popular on parts of trans twitter because he does dunk on transhobes a decent amount)
And now I see this and it's like, no
break a pool cue in half and throw them the pieces, then execute the survivor
