The worst I can honestly say about them is that there’s probably some corruption and institutional racism in them, as in all prisons
I think it is pretty fucked up thing to downplay this. It's absurd to think just because China has many programs trying to help the Uighurs, and Uighur party members that nothing bad is happening. Australia, America, Canada, etc all have welfare programs, investigation bodies for Indigenous deaths, Australia has several Indigenous members of parliament, etc. It doesn't mean Indigenous genocide isn't happening in the countries. That being said, Adrian Zenz is a psyop
Yeah, there's plenty to criticise China on in its treatment of minorities, and on specific policies in countering the terrorist groups in Xingang. There's also certainly a nasty undercurrent of Han nationalism in places that's resulted from a number of well intentioned policies of the CCP to boost the population's investment in the Socialist project. And we all love our Deng struggle sessions don't we folks?
But "Concentration Camps" is a bit rich when Australia is leaving asylum seekers to rot and die in New Guinea, and the US is putting children in cages in 50 degree sunlight and picking people off the streets in unmarked vans.
we are mostly on the same page here, but you don't need to resort to whataboutism in comparing ethnic groups being forced into camps. Forced re-education camps is not something I support a government doing, even if I agree with the educational content.
yeh i generally dont really care about internal politics in countries that I don't live in. i'm just not too keen on apologia of injustices, which tends to happen in online spaces like this. in my political life i am resisting injustices from the australian government and capitalism, you're not really gonna catch me at an anti China march in Australia - that is a huge waste of time lol.
I think it is pretty fucked up thing to downplay this. It's absurd to think just because China has many programs trying to help the Uighurs, and Uighur party members that nothing bad is happening. Australia, America, Canada, etc all have welfare programs, investigation bodies for Indigenous deaths, Australia has several Indigenous members of parliament, etc. It doesn't mean Indigenous genocide isn't happening in the countries. That being said, Adrian Zenz is a psyop
Yeah, there's plenty to criticise China on in its treatment of minorities, and on specific policies in countering the terrorist groups in Xingang. There's also certainly a nasty undercurrent of Han nationalism in places that's resulted from a number of well intentioned policies of the CCP to boost the population's investment in the Socialist project. And we all love our Deng struggle sessions don't we folks?
But "Concentration Camps" is a bit rich when Australia is leaving asylum seekers to rot and die in New Guinea, and the US is putting children in cages in 50 degree sunlight and picking people off the streets in unmarked vans.
we are mostly on the same page here, but you don't need to resort to whataboutism in comparing ethnic groups being forced into camps. Forced re-education camps is not something I support a government doing, even if I agree with the educational content.
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yeh i generally dont really care about internal politics in countries that I don't live in. i'm just not too keen on apologia of injustices, which tends to happen in online spaces like this. in my political life i am resisting injustices from the australian government and capitalism, you're not really gonna catch me at an anti China march in Australia - that is a huge waste of time lol.
I love that leftist infighting can get so heated and vitriolic while in the end we all kinda just agree but for different reasons.