It looks like the vote to force the rail workers back to work will get at least 70+ votes. No filibuster or parliamentarian.

[edit] 80 votes at the moment, 80-15

  • Wertheimer [any]
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    2 years ago

    Roll call vote isn't up yet on the senate.gov site, but the separate bill with seven days of sick leave failed 52-43.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-concurrent-resolution/119

    The proposal to give workers seven days of sick leave, which was championed by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and other liberal Democrats, failed to pick up enough Republican support to overcome a 60-vote threshold set for adopting the measure and fell 52-43.

    Six Republicans voted for the sick leave measure: Sens. Mike Braun (Ind.), Ted Cruz (Texas), Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Josh Hawley (Mo.), John Kennedy (La.) and Marco Rubio (Fla.).

    Sen. Joe Manchin (W Va.) was the only Democrat to vote against it.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3758436-senate-rejects-proposal-to-give-rail-workers-seven-days-of-paid-sick-leave/

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        60 votes required to do the good things, 50 votes required to do the bad things.

        The worst things get done by the courts or executive order.

      • ElGosso [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        It was supposed to fail, that's why it was put in a separate bill

      • Wertheimer [any]
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        2 years ago

        And, as usual, they didn't force the filibuster people to actually filibuster. It's just "Hey, you mind making 60 the minimum vote from now on?" and the Dems say, "Yeah, sure, no problem."

      • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Also, the "60-vote threshold" isn't real. 60 votes is what you need to break a filibuster. There was no filibuster. I'm pretty sure there hasn't been in years.

        • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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          2 years ago

          used to be you had to actually keep speaking to do a filibuster. Strom Thurmond talked for 25 hour straight to try stop the civil rights act, even pissed in a bucket on the Senate floor so he could keep talking. Now they are such fucking cowards, they just have to "declare" a fillibuster and that's that, unlimited stalling. If I was a lib I'd just revoke that, make these old fucks try to talk for 30 hours about how much they hate minorities without having a heart attack. you aren't even getting rid of the stupid thing so you'd think it would be easy to do, but everyone there just wants to collect donor money and do as little work as possible

          • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            There's something to be said here about they're inability to relate to or actually do physical work. Their whole world is in the mind, unencumbered by any physical reality or experience. They have no value, in their own lives, for actually having the ability to physically act on the world. They only care about words and bullshit.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          There was no filibuster.

          There was a threat to filibuster, which is all filibusters really are now.

          Would have been entertaining to watch the GOP parade around for the next three weeks arguing against sick leave for rail workers. But then the Senate would be logjammed and Biden wouldn't have an opportunity to expedite more military funding for Ukraine. Nobody wants that.

      • D61 [any]
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        2 years ago

        :michael-laugh:

        :specter: The specter of the electoral college haunts Congress. :specter-global:

    • InternetLefty [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      They will try to force the workers to continue the status quo after years of negotiation with what amounts to a "fuck you troublemakers get back to work". They gotta strike. If they do we need to support them