• Coolkidbozzy [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I made fun of english maws to the br*tish person I was hiking with, and he was like 'the NHS simply can't keep up with unlimited demand for dental care and therefore we must privatize it'

    this is what they want

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      unlimited demand

      There isn't unlimited demand! By definition there is a fixed demand!

      • emizeko [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        getting extra teeth implanted into various places every so often, as one does

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Akshully dental work is to he British public what feed is to goldfish. If not strictly rationed and controlled, they will literally consume to the point of death.

      • cogito_ergo_cum [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Me: I want my real teeth replaced with gold teeth!

        Doctor: sighs Because of socialism, I am forced to comply

        Me: I changed my mind, put my real teeth back in!

        Doctor: Yes sir..

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      no this is what one weirdo wanted. And more relevantly to it happening it was what the aristocracy, bourgoise, owners of the press, and government donors wanted

    • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I got some luxury organs up here in my face-hole, too! Eyes don't work? Fuck you, the free market would have provided you with perfect vision if it were adequately profitable.

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I would maybe not kill but certainly inflict a lot of violence to get dental coverage even if it was as shitty as the NHS.

    I live in a country that prides itself of free and equal access to healthcare but for some bullshit historical reason dental care for adults is left completely to the invisible hand of the free market. Politicians defends the status quo with either howyougunnapayforit or by modifying over paper not brushing their teeth. I haven't seen a dentist since I turned 18 and the fear of something happening that would require me to see one makes up a not insignificant part of that background dread I live with every day.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Healthcare by and large impacts the availability of the reserve army of labor. Dental care does not impact the availability of labor to the same degree, so it's not worth it to the capitalists I guess.

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  • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    It was the cost of dentistry in the US that caused me to delay seeing a dentist after suicidal depression led me to neglect my teeth for years, and it's the cost of dentistry, among other things, that has me roughly $18,000 in debt now

  • jwsmrz [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    its actually anglophobic to want high quality nationalized dental care because having disgusting chompers is a large part of British culture

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      its actually anglophobic to want high quality nationalized dental care

      I didnt think it was possible for me to support high quality natioanlized dental care any more than I already did, but i was wrong.

  • Lerios [hy/hym]
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    2 years ago

    oh god that reminds me, no matter how scared i am about this, i desperately need to get this tooth sorted out before i leave uni and have to start paying full prices, jesus fucking christ. :what-the-hell:

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    2 months ago

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  • Flinch [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    this will be incredible for the shareholders :porky-happy:

  • save_vs_death [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    yeah, dentistry is astonishingly cheap in the poor part of europe (yes, this includes turkey); and don't worry, all your dental technicians in the rich part of europe are the ones that managed to emigrate away from the poor parts, so all in all, it's all arbitrage

    it's the reason why some people book week stayovers to get all their shit done there, you end up paying less

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    having a nice, healthy looking set of chompers is a major social strata indicator in the west. only an actually socialist country would let working people have healthy, good looking teeth.

    in the states, i know multiple people that have had crowns, with "good" insurance and still got jammed for like $2-3k, USD. and generally, insurance only covers an acceptable portion of necessary work and semi annual check ups. like sure you can get a chipped tooth bonded at minimal cost every 3-5 years, but a permanent porcelain veneer? that's gonna be thousands.

    no matter what anyone says about rates under privatization, they will always get higher. and you still have to shop around to find a place that isn't crooked / trying to upsell.

    • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      In the US a crown will run you on average $3500 without insurance.

      With insurance it's probably about $2000

        • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          My car cost me $13k after taxes with an extended warranty

          I wish my fucking teeth were that cheap

          • Coolkidbozzy [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I had to get braces twice

            braces before you turn 18 are a fucking gamble/scam, since your jaw is still growing and can fuck up the improvements even if your retainer still fits perfectly

            like, I get that catching issues as a child might reduce the total amount of time in braces, but it'll cost you twice as much and dental care isn't free

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      having a nice, healthy looking set of chompers is a major social strata indicator in the west

      much less so in the UK. White and straight teeth are considered signs of vanity. It also turns out that white straight teeth aren't particularly healthy or unhealthy it's just a beauty standard.

      I remember as a kid we thought the one teacher with shiny white teeth was a witch and were genuinely afraid of her

      • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        i didn't mean to imply straight by saying "nice, healthy". orthodontia and dentistry are two different things in the US as well. and people go big on all manner of "vanity" standards that has nothing to do with health. like clothes that fit, hair/facial grooming, etc. these are all indicators of social position.

        • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          fair enough but given the NHS providing care to everyone health isn't much of a status symbol either

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  • Blep [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    My regular check in was $240 before insurance, $120, after. Im literally waiting to have insurance again so i can get skme cavities filled.

    :kkkanada:

  • barrbaric [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    £650 for a root canal sounding pretty fucking good to me.

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      That's cheap? In Arg it's around 200 US$ including crown and the thingy holding the crown. I mean the whole deal, killing the old tooth leaving the root and putting on a (realistic) fake tooth.

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Several thousand USD in the US without insurance, about 1k with.

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        • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          unlike doctors/hospitals, every dentist is a private practice that is mandated by law to take a certain number of NHS patients
          that number is far too low