Sonic's mostly had bad games especially as time goes on, but Genshin Impact is a hypermonetization grift with waifu characteristics, so critical support for Sonic. :no-copyright:

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Sonic’s mostly had bad games especially as time goes on

    ex-fucking-SCUSE me?

    • No bad mouthing sonic games here :no-copyright:
    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Not even Sonic and the Black Knight? That's NOOO good! :no-copyright:

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        That's one of the best ones! Purged :stalin-gun-1::stalin-gun-2:

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I've played all the Spark games and they're great. I've also played most of the 3D Sonic games and about half of them are good (and like two are great).

      • Spectre_of_Z_poster [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Only good sonic game is Sonic Adventure 2: Battle specifically for the dreamcast and I will die on this hill

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      Half the reason its so insidious.

      You're actually having fun, enjoying the story, not bothered by the daily quest grind, but hey that one thing you want is juuuust out of reach... Maybe its worth $10.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          Games designed with psychological experts to psychologically manipulate people cause psychologically vulnerable people to be exploited :surprised-pika:

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
              hexagon
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              2 years ago

              I didn't. But it's shitty when people look down on vulnerable people that were pulled in and use :porky-happy: 's rhetoric about consumer choice to absolve psychologically manipulative trickery of any fault.

              • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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                2 years ago

                I was using Passive Voice™- my exasperation was not aimed at you. It's just depressing how companies could just cram this shit down everyone's throats and now it's here to stay. I remember being offended down to my very core when Gears of War 3 sold weapon skin packs as DLC back in 2011. I was then flabbergasted when approximately 80 percent of players I saw had paid skins

                :so-true: WOW COOL GUN WITH ANIMATED LIGHTNING I'LL PAY REAL MONEY FOR THIS

                • UlyssesT [he/him]
                  hexagon
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                  2 years ago

                  Oh, I got that. My ire is with the many times I've received "vote with your wallet" and "if you don't like it don't buy it, simple" dismissive responses to increasingly greedy and cynical monetization practices getting normalized.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          When you spend hours every day playing a game, you may fixate on cosmetics and perks in the same way some dork who spends hours every day in their cars spend money on decals and fancy truck nuts and shit.

          • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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            2 years ago

            fancy truck nuts

            Now I'm thinking of like, custom hand crafted truck nuts made out of titanium or some shit.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        Half the reason its so insidious.

        Exactly.

    • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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      2 years ago

      I played it for a while and found it underwhelming. Also there's too many lolis, especially Klee. There's child-coding characters of unspecified age (like Paimon), there's the whole "4000-year-old dragon in body of 9-year-old"trope, and then there's just putting an actual pre-schooler in your waifu simulator. Fuck that.

      • iridaniotter [she/her, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Oh interesting. I don't play Genshin anymore but I was pleasantly surprised (:agony:) by the fact that Klee was literally just a child rather than a 4000 year old dragon that looks like a child pedo-bait situation. Come to think of it, the new whitewashed archon is just that huh. :agony: I guess at least they don't sexualize her. :agony:

        yeah anyway fuck genshin i hope it loses

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        Even the waifu roster seems committee designed and crafted by experts for maximum impact (pun intended). It's a deeply cynical monetization scheme that causes a lot of alienated consumers to shrug at it and look down at people that spend more than they can afford when that was the point of all the psychological experts hired to design these monetization schemes.

  • mittens [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    lol online polls awards are virtually meaningless, they're always subject to manipulation. everyone knows this. also why is genshin impact even in the poll when it was released years ago?

  • CliffordBigRedDog [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Actually Genshin is part of Xi's 5 year plan to destroy gaming once and for all

    So i know what im supporting

  • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Sonic "fans" were actualy caught botting the voting while claiming the other side was doing it, literal right wing projection shit.

    Meh you can criticize the gacha if you want. People should definitely stay away if they can't handle it, it is also not ideal either and obviously the community contains some of the worst examples of western weebs.

    But god damn fucking sonic is not much better, literally just a corporate product that only exists to take your money. I don't realy think there is any merit to millennials/genx voting using their nostalgia brains to justify supporting the shitty Japanese megacorp either.

    Meanwhile Genshin revolutionized the genre, has delivered 2+ years of steady growth while avoiding powercreep and is completely F2P if you want it to be, worst case scenario your money is going to fund well paying tech jobs in Shanghai instead of some piece of shit Japanese megacorp, some piece of shit CEO/executive and their underpaid and overworked Japanese workers in Tokyo.

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Did Genshin revolutionize the genre? I would agree that it's on another level from the Sonic franchise (despite my love of it), but really it was Breath of the Wild that revolutionized the genre and Genshin just bolted gacha mechanics onto it.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        Genshin just bolted gacha mechanics onto it.

        In a very cynical :stonks-up: way, that is revolutionizing the genre.

      • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Breath of the Wild that revolutionized the genre and Genshin just bolted gacha mechanics onto it.

        IMO one of the changes is that it isn't a whale baiting game as much as other gachas, if at all realy. The previous industry king was FGO and it was extremely greedy and dependent on whale baiting. The gacha model thrived on getting whales to massively over spend because of clout chasing or ingame rewards like PvP. FGO accounts resell for the price of house or more.

        Genshin otoh doesn't have either of those. No social aspect, no clout chasing, no PvP, essentialy no reason to whale at all.

        And that made it incredibly popular with normal people, you can use your waifu/husband and not have to worry about meta or PvP or whatever. It does mean normal people are more likely to spend because the barrier is lower. You could argue it is worse that way.

        The second way is that it is focus on polished aesthetics, they spend a lot of money and time on animations and design. GI doesn't have as many characters as other similar games in the same time period e.g Arknights got like 300 over the same period even though it is also not as greedy.

        And then there was other important things like massive open world, proper 3d graphics. I think Botw comparisons are mostly by people who don't know much about the game, but it is ok if that is your point of reference. It realy got nothing to do with Botw other than "open world" and "3d" though.

      • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Genshin revolutionized the shitty anime game genre by using shaders and proper lighting, having an orchestral soundtrack, and generally spending a AAA budget on it so it has Bethesda-tier world details. It's like how Code Vein revolutionized the shitty anime game genre by having good gameplay despite looking like shit.

  • let_me_tank_her [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    the released Sumeru characters have been underwhelming so far. Release Dehya you cowards!