• DirtyPair [they/them]
    hexbear
    86
    19 days ago

    i can't even imagine the thought process.

    "you better vote for us or else we'll let the other guy do even more genocide!!!!"

    ????????

    maybe this is going too far but it honestly surprises me americans don't assassinate their politicians more often

      • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
        hexbear
        40
        19 days ago

        Relative to how much other violence is normal in this shithole it definitely is astonishing how people only go after soft targets. A nation of cowardly bullies

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
          hexbear
          25
          19 days ago

          The one that really gets me, like really really, is the cop shoot so many people's dogs every day and no one ever goes John Wick on the cops about it. That's weird. There's something cultural going on there that merits study and dissection.

          • NewLeaf [he/him]
            hexbear
            4
            18 days ago

            Same with the people who self immolate. Not trying to be crass, but if you have an opportunity to take one of the fuckers pushing you to self immolate with you, do it.

      • DirtyPair [they/them]
        hexbear
        40
        19 days ago

        it's like their whole thing, you know? or at least it's supposed to be but they never do it! as a staunch fan of political violence it's very frustrating to me.

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
      hexbear
      31
      19 days ago

      They're too busy reaping the benefits of imperialism to give up their treats... or at least they think they're still benefiting.

      Do we still say "treats" here?

    • Xx_Aru_xX [she/her]
      hexbear
      31
      19 days ago

      maybe this is going too far but it honestly surprises me americans don't assassinate their politicians more often

      jfk-gaming

  • SovietyWoomy [any]
    hexbear
    72
    19 days ago

    Why do people think the lifelong zionist will kill less Palestinians than the cheeto?

  • Goadstool [he/him, comrade/them]
    hexbear
    67
    19 days ago

    Holy shit, dude. I legit can't believe they're actually making this argument. I understand it's the best thing that they can say, but if that's the case, wouldn't it be better to just not say it, and focus on other stuff? I know they're doing that, too, but to go here at all... Jesus. It looks so bad, even for them.

  • ReadFanon [any, any]
    hexbear
    66
    19 days ago

    Fixed

    Show

    "Bro, the same number of people who are going to get killed regardless of which option you chose."

    "No, it's different - see under Biden they're going to get killed at a slower rate so it's going to feel like it's the more acceptable of the two options."

    "But the same number of people are going to die!!"

    "You people are so unwilling to come to a reasonable compromise. No wonder we're never going to make any progress in this country when there's people like you who make unrealistic demands of the Democratic party. Don't you understand that Trump is worse?"

  • DirtyPair [they/them]
    hexbear
    50
    19 days ago

    gonna make a comment that doesn't call for illegal-to-say

    comments

    If you are a liberal or progressive who plans not to vote in November over the Biden administration's support of Israel in the Gaza conflict, you are a fucking moron. Abstaining from voting is the same as handing Trump your vote, because I guarantee conservatives won't miss this election for the world.

    :ole-reliable: vote

    (we should get an ole reliable emote)


    Biden is trying to pump the brakes, trump will encourage them to wipe out palestine.\

    do liberals actually think this? like they actually think biden saying "they gotta stop!" and then sending in another shipment of bombs counts as him "pump(ing) the breaks"?

    Heres the thing, bidens foot is nowhere near the brakes. Hes in the passenger seat at best. Bibi is the one driving, and biden is telling him to slow down. Biden is no more capable of controlling Israel than the EU is, but you dont see people yelling at them for it.

    Now people want to replace biden with trump, who would challenge netanyahu to floor it or no balls.

    they actually think this, huh?


    May someone EILI5 why this is the hill that so many, particularly young “progressives” wish to die on?

    It seems like if there ever was a “both-sides” topic, this is the one. Why are they willing to accept what the other alternative (a Trump presidency) will be like but not accept the lesser of the two evils (a Biden presidency)?

    liberals can't understand being anti-genocide unless it's explained to them as if they were a toddler.


    According to noted philosopher The Good Place, the correct answer is to throw yourself in front of the trolley.

    so-true it's just like my treats!!!!


    "I'm against genocide" says the genocide supporters who will let Trump genocide Palestinians, Ukrainians, Taiwanese, American Muslims, LGBTQ+ Americans, Jewish Americans, Immigrants, and many, many others.

    and democrats will stand gleefully by and watch it happen, right?


    You’re missing about 29,999 bodies on bidens track

    michael-laugh

    • robinnn [he/him]
      hexbear
      36
      19 days ago

      "I'm against genocide" says the genocide supporters who will let Trump genocide Palestinians, Ukrainians, Taiwanese, American Muslims, LGBTQ+ Americans, Jewish Americans, Immigrants, and many, many others.

      They just make stuff up. Trump is going to genocide... Taiwanese people? The worse their guy gets, the worse his opponent must be or else their guy would be bad (impossible).

      • VILenin [he/him]M
        hexbear
        24
        19 days ago

        I think the genocide supporters are the people voting for the war criminal responsible for committing genocide, actually

      • @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
        hexbear
        4
        edit-2
        18 days ago

        Logic here is interesting. I assume they meant Trump will go to war with China, and Taiwanese who will die will be his fault.

        But by the same logic, Biden is to blame for at least 400000 dead Ukrainians. Not to mention it's Biden govt that not only continue the Trump policy of antagonising and waging economic war against China, and it's Dem government and party members who constantly insult China like not even Pompeo did.

    • NewLeaf [he/him]
      hexbear
      5
      18 days ago

      Heres the thing, bidens foot is nowhere near the brakes. Hes in the passenger seat at best. Bibi is the one driving, and biden is telling him to slow down. Biden is no more capable of controlling Israel than the EU is, but you dont see people yelling at them for it. Now people want to replace biden with trump, who would challenge netanyahu to floor it or no balls.

      Isn't this just the trolley problem reimagined? The correct action would be for Biden to jerk the wheel of the tortured metaphor of a car into a grove of very solid trees, so the "car" doesn't kill another 40,000 innocents

  • Rom [he/him]
    hexbear
    46
    19 days ago

    Just casually admitting they consider Palestinians to be a necessary sacrifice to keep the imperial machine running.

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
    hexbear
    39
    19 days ago

    Imagine presenting this to someone who wasn't crunk off the cult juice. Look, either way you vote innocent people are going to die, it's up to you how many.

  • TomBombadil [he/him, she/her]
    hexbear
    37
    19 days ago

    I don't even buy the implied argument that trump will kill more. Maybe. Not like he's a friend of Palestine. But Biden is the one currently actively sending weapons. Often even when other ghouls in the legislature don't want to. And he's been an avowed Zionist his whole Career. Definitely not seen compelling evidence or proof that trump would be worse in anyway

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
      hexbear
      24
      19 days ago

      the only thing he could realistically do to escalate is commit US forces, and everything about his first term indicates that he wouldn't want to do that

  • AtomPunk [he/him]
    hexbear
    29
    19 days ago

    Holding the life of every last Palestinian not blown to shit hostage over a farcical election. Boils my fucking blood.

  • RoabeArt [he/him]
    hexbear
    28
    19 days ago

    This is the thing that pisses me off about libs. They focus on the hypothetical of how much worse it would be under Trump, but ignore the fact that Biden is the president RIGHT THE FUCK NOW and doesn't do a thing to stop the genocide.

    • NewLeaf [he/him]
      hexbear
      7
      edit-2
      18 days ago

      Before I caught my last reddit-logo ban, I just started replying to those people with a wall of text that went something like this:

      "That thing you're worrying about trump doing is happening right now. Under Biden. Biden is doing it. Today. Right now. Not hypothetically, but actually, and there are no signs of stopping. Biden is sending weapons right now not trump. The thing you're worried about trump doing is already happening with Biden in the white house. Right now. He's doing it. Not trump. Trump won't make it worse because it's already on track to be as bad as it can get. Right now. With Biden in command. Today.."

      And so on and on and on. I make it tedious to read, but keep it civil enough to not get reported. It was generally met with positive response by other r*dditors

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
    hexbear
    24
    19 days ago

    Reddit is one massive liberal echo chamber. Nearly every prediction they’ve made has been wrong, including Bernie winning.

    Gamble against Reddit’s predictions and the odds will be very favorable for you every time.