I’ll wait.
Imma split the party. Just Herzegovina. Bosnia is innocent. Disclaimer: I’m a dumb yank who is unaware of historical context please don’t cancel me if this is wrong enough to be an issue.
You are not canceled, but entire ex-Yu is a shitshow now. No exceptions. Herzegovina in particular, is a bastion of tribal, right-wing conservatism though, where they consider Croatia (which is already quite right-wing), not right-wing conservative enough.
So what would be a good source to learn more? The Deprogram episode was informative in a very basic sense, and I’ve read articles explaining the NATO meddling that led to the dissolution. But as to how the current context relates to the modern left outside of being very sad… I know nothing.
I don't know really. I barely keep informed through my family and some local news outlets, but it's pretty dire to the point of hopelessness. In my (ex)country the marginally successful "far-left" are some Marxists which could be described as the ultra-left "China bad" at best. The most successful "left" in general, are Social Democrats, who are useless, incompetent, opportunists. So, the right-wing routinely wins any elections and has pretty much free reign over everything. I don't see any hope of change, until there is a global "tectonic shift" of some kind, i.e. literally the end of capitalism on a global level.
The ukraine- tina. Oh wait, a diaspora means they weren’t always there. Nm
Eh, they aren’t Warhammer fungal spore orks. They were taught by somebody and have a long history of it so wouldn’t it make more sense if they were crypto passing it down? Idk. Stuff just doesn’t appear out of nowhere outside of apologetics or the Big Bang.
In my non-expert opinion they were there and are now poking their heads out after gaining a beachhead because that seems more feasible.
I’m also a dumbass.
So don’t take me as acting like an expert.
you see the Ukrainian Skull shape.....
i mean theres very clear meddling post 91 by both the Ukrainian Reactionary diaspora and the West in making Ukraine the way it is now
Dude, i not once mentioned anything related to skull shape or biology. At least try to immediately assume phrenology.
Ukrainians were some of the last eager collaborators and commuted some of the most brutal pograms. Look into the history of imperial Russia, the Ukraine was basically the designated genocide zone in order to preserve class interests. The recent hexbear posts about the holodomor myth go into this with better eloquence than I can muster.
If I’m misinterpreting your point I apologize, but please. Claiming its new to the regions culture is something else
that phrenology dig is just a joke poking at your tendency to attach political ideology to cultures
i dont even know what your implying there, like the collaborators were a relatively small proportion of the population, and literally every area that the nazis took over had their own brand of collaborators
I guess what I was trying to get at is that a movement without popular support can’t dominate.
Ukrainian identity like most identities has shifted over time, but the national identity itself seems to have been born in the fires of antisemitism and nazi collaboration and never shifted past that. Just lurking under the surface due to the Soviet’s keeping it repressed by subsuming into a greater identity free of the problematic origins.
And look at the Jim Crow south. Very few people were riding at night yet it entirely defined in an inescapable manner the entire southern white culture. The average person just doing nothing and existing in the background does nothing to excuse “southern identity”. This is parallel to what I was trying to say about the ukraine.
Furthermore, I would argue that the minority of hate that perpetuates crimes against humanity (the American south in this instance) proves that any culture that doesn’t react with extreme prejudice to bigotry is damned.
Anthropological Calvinism if you want to meme at me.
China, provided you pronounce Tina weird and know absolutely nothing about history
Edit: Yeah some bits just aren't worth it
China is the most populous nation on earth
Therefore, if a bunch of Nazis went to other places, statistically, most of them would end up in the place with the most people :very-smart:
