For the sake of this post, we'll pretend travel is not :bourgeoisie: decadence and is used to reinforce our ideals and build global connections (but not the :cia: kind).
Normies travel to Disneyland for treats, Paris to see the Eiffel Tower, London to see legacies of royalty, Rome to see the ruins of empire.
Where do communists pilgrimage to? Lenin's Tomb, Pavlov's House? I want to visit Soviet war memorials and speak to eastern Europeans who lived under socialism, saw it's dissolution, and the aftermath.
The destinations can be less ideological, of course. What are some cool places?
Was going to post this in /earth but I have a hunch that's a dead sub
cool thing about 'leftist travel' is your never far from the site of bloody reaction against the workers & acts revolutionary defiance, if ya know where to look.
so it doesn't have to be the first priority when you're thinking of what you wana see. Paris is 'Eiffel Tower' but also hundreds of leftist sites. Barcelona is Gammon Holiday but also the heart of anarchism in the SCW & still has CNT knocking about.
but also you could travel somewhere to do something funny like desecrate a grave or leave flowers on an assassination site ( of a comrade or a spirited attempt at killing a baddy)
shiit so that's what the slogan means! I knew what it was associated with I just didn't get it lmao
I thought Dublin, probably Ireland in general, was fairly interesting as a leftist. Lots of grappling with fairly recent history to be found there and how it shapes the world.
EDIT: East Berlin and Leipzig were also fairly interesting I think, because the GDR is still very much within living memory
I oppose this, what's the point of going to "house where guy once lived"?
If you pose OP's question? To feel some sort of cultural difference, or to gain some insights in how changes affect society or any number of experiences that can only be had with going somewhere and interacting with it.
I guarantee you as a hexbear.net user you're not going to find anything interesting or insightful in the SPD-ran Karl Marx House in Trier
however both of these sites are draws for socialists worldwide and are indisputably travel destinations for “communist globetrotters”, which is what OP is asking for.
Yeah, should they though? Is this sort of idol-worship-esque shit really worthwhile though?
If you want a history of Marx' and Engel's personal life, there's plenty of books about it and you're not gonna find many traces of them, barring intentionally made ones, in either city, on account of being rebuilt after WW2.
And if you want to see what they grew up in, there's plenty better museums or places to be. And if you want to feel it the vibes, go to Northrine-Westphalias many remaining dive bars and talk to people there. Or Duisburg's industry museum.
I don't think I'm confused at all, all I'm asking for is some examples (or other evidence) of these co-ops that people are supposedly quitting their high paying Cisco jobs to start.
Oh I get what you mean now. Yea Wolff is just being dumb with regards to socialism whenever he talks about co-ops as usual. He literally thinks starting a company with your friends and having equal equity ownership is a co-op which is what Marx wrote about apparently
Communist Harlem, various basketball courts, wherever the Imperialist Pig-Dog Washington Generals are playing.
You forgot Globetrotter University, where the finest minds are hard at work solving the problems of the future.
Young Pioneers Tours. I've never done them, but they look cool.
Laos was cool outside the capital and tourist traps. If you're willing to rough it and suspend your need for a nice place with Western amenities, they are the nicest, most chill people. Foreigners hooking up with locals outside of marriage is actually a criminal offense (for the foreigner). Considering the sexpat bullshit that happens around Asia, that's actually kinda nice.
The one in Beijing has captured US tanks
North Korea has the USS Pueblo available for tours
Places where the revolutionary government and/or project are more or less intact. That way you can help support the people who live there at the same time you make connections or learn about other cultures. You can also use this opportunity to learn about which groups are legit or not so that you can set up recurring donations to their projects. Sometimes there's really no way to do that outside of visiting in-person or already having local comrades.
You could also support groups dedicated to opposing neoliberalization and displacement are safe bets. Places dedicated to making indigenous ways of life economically viable and therefore sustainable, for example. Often, indigenous communities lose their children to cities and tourism because the money is better, leading to a kind of slow genocide via the economy itself.
Countries that come to mind, in no particular order:
- Cuba
- Vietnam
- Laos
- Venezuela (in particular, the communes)
- Bolivia (visiting indigenous workers, socialists, and probably also just La Paz)
- You can visit communist neighborhoods and projects in most Latin American countries
- China. It's doing relatively well economically but there are still a ton of extremely poor people there and active projects to improve their lives. You can find a town and its party representative(s) and contact them in advance to do a visit and ask how you could contribute.
I have no specific communist reasons in hand but come visit India there's a lot going on.
Plenty of archaeological sites, like Indus Valley settlements.
There's probably plenty of monuments to peasant uprisings too.
