Stop the misinformation spread: it's now official that he's being held for 30 days after a court agreed to it

  • Utter_Karate [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Here's some good news realpolitik for you:

    He really fucked up the timiing of this. Romania is looking to join the Schengen agreement and align themselves with the EU, and that entails being seen living up to "certain standards"., including not looking like a corrupt sex trafficing center. Obviously there are pretty much no limits to how corrupt and sex trafficy you can actually be, but at this particular moment in time his bragging about bribing Romanian officials and how easy it is to do sex trafficing in Romania is really bad for him. Him being convicted will help every ruling class ghoul in Romania, and while that doesn't mean that things are good or moving to the left, it does mean that this is a very bad situation for Andrew Tate personally.

      • Utter_Karate [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        There's still the possibility of the US striking some kind of deal where he pretty much gets off, but there is also an actual possibility of him being used as an example. His wealth is nothing compared to the Romanian oligarchs who want to see him convicted and the US oligarchs could go either way. If the US oligarchs decide that they look better throwing him to the wolves he will face prison time enough to almost satiate this site. So, not to jinx it, but this really could happen.

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      does

      These thick characters can be much better than...

      what I usually use - plain old bold and italics.

      How did you make **___**them**___**?

      • blobjim [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        ***what are you asking, don't you have bold italics already?*** I don't see any difference between what you wrote and what they wrote.

      • PissPoorGrandpig [none/use name]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        It's fucking bad. My mate told me the toilets were so infested with rats that he literally couldn't shit without getting his bollocks and arse bitten.

        Which, y'know, under normal circumstances I'd be appalled by.

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    i only started hearing about this guy when he got banned from like YT and twitter for being disgusting. aside from his whole persona being abhorrent, i can't wrap my head around the broader phenomenon of people making millions from a pitch like, "wanna know how to make a million dollars from _____? send me $10 to get my secrets about ____." and the secret is to get 100,000 people interested in _____ to send you $10.

    so many grifters are out there running that same program, and it somehow works. hell it worked before the internet when people did those chain letters. the difference was, the USPS criminalized it, went after people, and put out educational material.

    these days, it's like "entrepenurial" or some shit to absolutely rip people off and anybody with a following gets catapulted by anybody else with a platform because they both assume they can draft numbers of clicks/viewers off each other.

    the attention economy is fucked.

    • PissPoorGrandpig [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      OK, so from what I've worked out, his "hustlers uni" is almost certainly a money laundering operation as much as it is a pyramid scheme. He also runs casinos for the Romanian mafia, and makes 600k a month from enslaved women working as 'cam girls'. I doubt the actual income from his programme is significant in any way compared to the other income streams, if at all: it's almost certainly a money laundering scheme and he's the fall guy.

      • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        i only know crime from TV/internet and it seems like a weird move to have an infamously flashy international celebrity be running the laundering operation. or maybe it's brilliant? i've always subscribed to the maxim of not having a big profile when doing crimes.

        though it could be as you say, where some organized crime element approached him to put him in the "arrest this guy" jacket so they could run wild for a year or whatever. he seems dumb enough to have signed his name to all kinds of shit legal instruments for "big" bucks without ever learning any partner's name or even seeing anyone but a low level bagman in person. basically, guaranteeing the investigators and prosecutors throw the book at him in frustration because he has nothing to trade in cooperating.

        • PissPoorGrandpig [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          I'll cast a lot of aspersions at him, but he seems like the kinda dude who'd take the fall because it's part of the bro code.

      • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        This seems pretty sensible - like if he really set up a camgirl operation in Romania, it's probably taken over by organized crime on day 2.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        :doomer: This shit's never going to end, is it? (CW: possible Patient Zero of grift influencer culture) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24P6EOAFcZE

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Everything about the Ta! Lopez model disturbs me, from the bogus epiphanies to the quasi-uplifting tone to the way the entire grift is presented as something between a false friendship and a quasi-secular religious experience. :kombucha-disgust:

  • halfpipe [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Yeah, it seemed insane to me that someone booked on rape and human trafficking could be let out the same day. Especially when the fucker is such a flight risk after spending the past 9 months dodging the warrant by traveling through private jet terminals.

  • CommieElon [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    He’s in the Matrix.

    Seriously I need to not look at twitter with the amount of cultists defending him.

    • Spectre_of_Z_poster [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      The nazbol/patsoc/larouchite bunch are posting a bunch of #tatedidntkillhimself and posting about the Matrix and I don’t get their angle.

      Do they think #epsteindidntkillhimself was a movement to defend Epstein? Do they think Tate is dead or going to get suicided? Why are they posting this it doesn’t make sense lol, no better proof they are all incomprehensible weirdos or ops

        • Spectre_of_Z_poster [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          I mean even if they are gonna defend Tate, why use the hashtag #tatedidntkillhimself? They do realize Epstein was guilty and a pedophile right? That makes Tate guilty and a pedophile too in their analogy, but they are using it to defend him? Plus Tate is still alive, like wtf. They are like 10 layers deep in contrarian internet meme discourse and anybody normal would have an aneurysm reading their tweets, so they think this level of ironic internet brain poison is appealing to the masses?

            • Spectre_of_Z_poster [they/them]
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              2 years ago

              Why would the deep state care to kill Tate? They killed Epstein because Epstein was involved in the deep state and had too many secrets he could spill on them, so his old friends turned on him and snuffed him out.

              Are they saying that if the deep state kills Tate that Tate is extremely involved in the deep state doing pedo rings and trafficking for them? Isn’t he supposed to be “their guy” and anti-deep state like them?

              These peoples brains are pudding

                • Spectre_of_Z_poster [they/them]
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                  2 years ago

                  the Woke Mob simply wants to kill him to censor his based and redpilled views from propagating to the world

                  That’s obviously the angle they are gunning for but the Epstein stuff muddies it and makes it incoherent. Epstein wasn’t killed because he was too based and redpilled, he was killed because he was gonna be a snitch on his old employers and clients.

                  I get that they think this is a woke globalist conspiracy, I just don’t get the Epstein analogy at all. Totally throws off their argument and just makes your brain have a stroke

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        They made fun of Jussie Smollett when he said that during his conviction. Funny how quickly they turn on things they once made fun of.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The Matrix movies are all about performing acts of sexual violence and the more sexual violence the more one is like Neo or Morpheus. :hypersus:

    • PissPoorGrandpig [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      My Romanian mate reckons if they're from pre-'45 they're legally grandfathered in, but otherwise almost certainly illegal.

      He chats some shit though so take with a pinch of two of salt

    • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      im trying to find another source but supposedly they were airguns or blank firing guns.

      https://mobile.twitter.com/CalibreObscura/status/1608648412106493953

    • PissPoorGrandpig [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      I said elsewhere, but I reckon he's the kinda dude who lives by the bro code and won't squeal. Happy for this to stand and be proven wrong though

      • halfpipe [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        He's staring at a 20+ year sentence , so are his brother and the two Romanian mobsters that got picked up in the same raid, all of whom know that the only good option is to try to sell out the others for a reduced sentence before they can do it first.

        Plus he probably has CTE from kickboxing, since most of the reason he was charged/caught is that he's seemingly unable to stop bragging about doing crimes.

          • halfpipe [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            he got grabbed by the state gendarmerie in a nationwide raid that hit all of his compounds at once, and the rape and kidnapping investigation was boosted by the US embassy after he trafficked a US citizen. He's properly in the shit.

            • PissPoorGrandpig [none/use name]
              hexagon
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              2 years ago

              The max sentence for trafficking is 15 years, and afaik they're never given that out even to mobsters who've trafficked 100s of women. I think he's probably looking at 10 years max but feel free to bookmark and rub in my face if I'm wrong because I hope I am

              • SaniFlush [any, any]
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                2 years ago

                Still, in 10 years what little fame/infamy he has will evaporate. The Bational Bocalist Barty will not be waiting outside the jail with a limousine 10 years from now; he was a useful idiot for spreading propaganda, and now that he's imprisoned he'll be irrelevant. Fascists treat people like tissues to use once crumple up and throw away.

                What worries me more is how we are going to stop the next right wing propaganda patsy from rising before they get too powerful. The struggle never ends.

                • PissPoorGrandpig [none/use name]
                  hexagon
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                  2 years ago

                  Oh yeah, he's absolutely cooked imo even in a country with the particular corruptions that Romania has.

                  But how do "we" stop it happening in the future? damn, I mean, let's go full marxian: it's structure or superstructure, right? And so we know structure is the only way to change it? We simply have to kill all British people.

                  • SaniFlush [any, any]
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                    2 years ago

                    We'll see how that heating fuel shortage shakes out over the next few winters, I guess.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Being sufficiently rich and :us-foreign-policy: means a serial rapist and slaver getting out of jail faster than a black kid caught smoking a joint. :agony-4horsemen: