A decision by the Ukrainian government to suspend consular services for military-aged men living abroad has left some men uncertain about their futures.

Ukraine has canceled its consular services for all military-aged men living abroad. This means all Ukrainian men between the ages of 18 and 60 who reside outside of the country are currently not able to renew their passports or receive other important government documents such as marriage certificates.

he-admit-it

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    15 days ago

    between the ages of 18 and 60

    Only winners conscript 60 year olds. We will soon march on Moscow. Slava Ukrani.

  • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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    15 days ago

    Turns out it's kinda difficult to get people to fight for their country when they don't really feel like the country is worth fighting for.

    • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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      imagine being pushed to "fight for your country" when you don't even live there anymore, the conflict is futile and driven by foreign powers, and your home country is pushing you to do it by taking away bureaucratic services.

      I don't know how much louder I could say, "blow me."

      • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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        14 days ago

        "Sacrifice your life for neo-liberal austerity and corruption", yeah I don't think I will

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    How long until the EU regimes begin deporting refugees right back to the trenches?

    • 7bicycles [he/him]
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      15 days ago

      Give it a month or so I'd say

      Strong rhetoric is boost for Ukraine reinforcement drive but it is not clear by which mechanism émigrés could be sent back

      I'm guessing this will be "Dudes with guns who make you"

  • Voidance [none/use name]
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    One of those weird things about the Ukraine war that has gone totally unremarked in Western media, the fact that Ukraine rounded up most of its male population into poorly trained Volkssturm units that are basically just cannon fodder for Russian artillery

    • TechnoUnionTypeBeat [he/him, they/them]
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      15 days ago

      I've seen it remarked upon in some lib circles... As a positive

      They believe any Ukranian male of fighting age who attempts to leave or dodge the draft is a coward complicit in genocide and should be either forced to the front or imprisoned for life

      I wish this was a joke yea

      • ItsPequod [he/him]
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        "Dulce et decorum est, pro patria mori"

        WW1 bros are so back

  • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
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    It's gonna be interesting seeing how having a failed state right on its border will affect the european union (I'm not talking about the uk)

  • D61 [any]
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    15 days ago

    lathe-of-heaven Time:

    In about a month there will be articles talking about how residents of EU countries where Ukrainians fled to would really REALLY like them to go back home now.

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      there's already been an article about Poland like this posted here

      EDIT: found it, from 10 days ago:

      Reuters: Poland ready to help Ukraine to get military-age men back, minister says

      Poland is ready to help Ukraine in getting military-age male citizens to return and help their home country in fighting in the war against Russia, Defence Minister Wladyslaw Kosiniak-Kamysz said on Wednesday.

      The Ukrainian government announced rules on Wednesday under which passports for military-age men can be issued only inside the country instead of foreign diplomatic missions.

      As a result, men aged between 18 and 59 living abroad will be unable to renew expiring passports or obtain new ones.

      "I think many Poles are outraged when they see young Ukrainian men in hotels and cafes, and they hear how much effort we have to make to help Ukraine," he said, without giving any details on how Poland will help.

      "Any support is possible," Kosiniak-Kamysz said about how Poland would respond if Kyiv asked for help in bringing home those who may lose their right to stay in Poland once their passports expire.

      • @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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        It would potentially be incredible fuckfest if that happen, because do you know where there is tons of Ukrainian companies and generally employees in Poland? Road transport and construction work. If they get pissed, all the transport strikes we seen in the past will look like picnic.

        “I think many Poles are outraged when they see young Ukrainian men in hotels and cafes, and they hear how much effort we have to make to help Ukraine,” he said, without giving any details on how Poland will help.

        It's starting, official xenophobia, and under a new liberal government no less.

  • mushroom [he/him]
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    hard to imagine a future for ukraine right now that isn't fucked for the next 15+ years at least. depressing to think that even after the war started they could've ended it a few months in, from a position of relative strength, if it weren't for fucking boris johnson and the western MIC

  • someone [comrade/them, they/them]
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    I'm looking forward to asking all the military-age Ukrainian-descended-and-proud yellow-blue-flag-waving Canadians around me when they're going to Ukraine fight for their fatherland.

  • the_post_of_tom_joad [any, any]
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    This is great news! The hand of the market has spoken! Now better, smarter, private companies can fill the gap in services the state no longer provides. So when does Biden get his "mission accomplished" banner?

    Joking aside, do you think he'll get the nobel peace prize poshumously?