I found out my girlfriend has a Jiang Qing fan page and she keeps calling me a capitalist roader. I've been trying to explain the benefits of socialism with Chinese characteristics, but she just laughs at me and yells "REVISIONIST" anytime I bring it up.

What should I do?

Edit: thanks to those of you who took this seriously. Her parents are on vacation so she is heading to their house with a group of her French Maoist friends. We will see how our next conversation goes when she is back.

  • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    No one has told you the obvious truth which is you must become even more of an ultra than her. Start saying breathing is bourgeois decadence and a real communist can support themselves by sheer love for the people. Tell her even knowing the word revisionism makes her too poisoned by capitalist spooks to be a REAL ultra.

  • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    It's easy.

    Call her a dogmatist and accuse her of book worship.

    • notatrot [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      That's how our last argument ended, and now I'm sleeping on the couch "like a dog" (but we don't even have a dog!)

  • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    This is probably a bit, but it's also close enough to actual exchanges I had with my ex that I can almost believe it. Relationships with terminally online leftists can be weird lmao.

  • HoChiMaxh [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Maoists are cool honestly, I think that in general critiques from the left are principled and should be encouraged if they don't embrace or strengthen reactionary or counterrevolutionary positions.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Ultras are fine unless they're advocating for liberal shit as a result of being cluelessly ultra.

      For example, it's fine being ultra about China needing to be more socialist and that there are too many forms of exploitation that have come from the Deng measures.

      It's not fine to advocate for regime change (which will inevitably be a liberal colour revolution) because "China is capitalist".

    • notatrot [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      I've tried to get her to read his address to the Third Plenary Session of the Eleventh Central Committee of the CPC but she refuses. She just quotes Maos little red book at me.

      • notatrot [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        This isn't a joke and it's not funny. It's breaking apart our relationship

        • Coolkidbozzy [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          if she understands how disastrous the sino-soviet split was, I'm confident you can reach an understanding and work things out

      • Shoegazer [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Mao contended that Deng Xiaoping was a capitalist roader and that the Soviet Union fell to capitalist roaders from within the Communist Party of the Soviet Union after the death of Joseph Stalin in 1953.

        Well, he wasn’t entirely wrong. But if Khrushchev was a roader, then what does that make Mao? Out of the two, Mao’s china was supporting fascist, genocidal forces across the globe while the USSR was still backing communist forces.

  • judgeholden
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    9 months ago

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      • GaveUp [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        This has to be a bit

        "My gf is an ultra"

        "Yea, she owns a chair with mediocre ergonomics that's worth thousands of dollars"

        • notatrot [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          It was a gift from her parents (who are wealthy but that's another story).

          • ButtBidet [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            I'm honestly ok with ultras. But her class background is worrying. Rich people like smelling their own farts. I wouldn't be surprised if she was some version of reactionary in ten years. I'm sorry, but if her parents are legitimately wealthy, she needs to practise humility.

            How wealthy are the parents?

              • ButtBidet [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                If the parents are legit bourgeoisie, then for real she needs to practise some humility. I've met enough loudmouth leftists with rich parents that eventually fall into a middle class career before they turn 30, remembering the blunder years of them being leftist.

                At the very least, they should be focusing much of their energy on praxis and not struggle sessions. Like someone mentioned here that Greta Thurnberg at least uses her privilege for change.

                As a child of working class parents, self centred rich "leftists" piss me off. I've had enough of them constantly try to shame me over bullshit, only for them to deflect the gentlest critique of them being obvious assholes over and over. And because of the benefits of their class (education, good speaking, beauty, leisure), people not paying good attention will default to the rich person's side.

                One's position relative to the means of production matters a lot. A LOT, comrade.