The whole thread rages pretty hard from the OP lmao:
I am f*cking tired of constantly needing to check if everyone I interact with hates Jews
I'm Jewish, Zionist, live in NYC, but not very active in Jewish circles (mostly bc I have social anxiety, imposter syndrome, and yes, I should find a therapist)
I am constantly vetting every event I attend, and every date I may potentially go on. I am tired of being surprised by someone's IG post about the "brave students" in the encampments, after they had the gall to come to my Hannukah party. I am tired of checking with my newly engaged friend about the guest list of their wedding. I am tired of wanting to go on a camping trip with my friends, but since I have not personally asked every single person about their stance on Israel I don't know if it will be a safe space. I am tired of watching in apprehension when people look at my Magen David. I am tired of being excited about a friend coming to visit, and wondering if I should ask them about their views now, or wait till I see them in person. I am tired of assuming everyone is a latent anti-Semite who is just hiding their views from me. I am tired of needing to explain why Jews have a right to exist and a right to a homeland.
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Thank you everyone for your posts! It is helpful (but depressing) to hear that other people are struggling the same way. I don't think my non-Jewish friends understand how I am feeling at all.
and to the person that thinks I have ADHD, and to the pathetic, repetitive, anti-Semitic incel from the UK who is obsessed with BeckiJones and slipped into my DMs - go f*ck yourself.
A whole generation of nerds that didn't get bullied enough
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tired of checking with my newly engaged friend about the guest list of their wedding.
another way to write this: I am tired of being disinvited from my friends' weddings because I demanded a guest list with their israeli loyalty noted
Getting a wedding invite with checkboxes for whether you're bringing a plus one, want chicken, fish, or vegetarian, and if you think genocide is cool.
We need somebody who can not only fly this plane, but who didn't condemn Hamas for dinner.
Boycotting, divesting, and sanctioning my friend because he invited me to go paragliding
Can you imagine how many liberals would gasp at the incivility if you asked them to disinvite all of their Republican family members from a wedding? Never mind the fact that are far more people who can claim to have been harmed by the Republican party than the pro-Palestine movement.
NO ONE GIVES A SHIT THAT YOU'RE JEWISH. THEY GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE SETTLER-COLONIAL ENTITY THAT IS CURRENTLY COMMITING A GENOCIDE THAT YOU ARE LOUDLY AND PUBLICLY SUPPORTING
There are many Jews here in NYC who you cannot trust because they are some of the loudest "anti-Zionists" out there
oh yes, i work with several Jews who proudly wear "Jews for Palestine" pins
It’s incredible that Anti Zionist Jews and non Jewish anti zionists get along fine and these guys just conjure up stories in their heads and get mad about it
lmao at this comment:
I used to love Rage Against the Machine. Bet they're off the table.for me now.🙄
Of all bands you love as a genocide supporter...
Another one talked about how dissapointed they were that they spent a ton of money to get tickets to a Green Day show. lmao, imagine thinking any quasi-punk band would be pro-zionist.
Billy Joe Armstrong once said "cops are part of the 99%" while opposing blm abolish the police protests so it wouldn't have surprised me
I remember seeing a "cops are workers, just other workers unions should be treated as well as cops are" in response to blm on reddit
Lives in USA
Can't feel safe if someone doesn't support a country halfway across the world.I don't even blame the kid. Imagine the brain washing behind this whole thing. They've been raised to think that any kind of criticism about Israel is a threat to their existence and therefore any event they attend should not harbor these individuals. What kind of fucked up mentality is this?
Edit: The comments are just a perfect representation of zionists and who's causing the real threat in the US. If someone posted a comment like this against a Jewish bride Reddit would give away their IP faster than the speed of light.
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This reminds me of when whiny right-wingers during Trump's presidency started complaining about how "due to politics" they weren't able to go to family events or some of them weren't able to see their grandchildren.
It worries me how many people appear to be genuinely adopting these ideas about criticizing a genocide that a government is committing being an attack on them personally. As I understood it the point was to be a smokescreen for Israeli policy, but it feels like an increasing number of these folks will be permanently broken by this, big time brainworms.
it has always always always been this way
im 40. i was protesting the invasion of iraq. i was alive and saw the news of iraq #1 even (tho i was a kid). i was talking to my parents during the invasion of iraq and grandparents in the car... i was fresh out of highschool and i got the dress down of my life from them. they all went full on ghoul mode. to this day i will never let them claim they were against it. im insufferable about it. at the time i told them it would kill tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of civilians and was called 'hysterical' over it. then we killed about a million.
and this is the crux of it. at any point any of these people could say, "oh i mean i dont like hamas or whatever but this other stuff seems bad, too" and just be a fence sitter. they could have their cake and eat it too. but they've dug in. they have to defend it now and will till the end of time. because otherwise theyd be wrong and being wrong is an attack on your person, in their view. it is unacceptable to be wrong
so i will not give them an inch.
NO, Israel DOES NOT have a right to defend itself, either as a matter of international law (as was already decided decades ago) or as a moral principle. NO, I will NOT condemn Hamas. Yes, the Palestinian people DO have a right to defend THEMSELVES both as a matter of international law AND as a moral principle and, in fact, it is a moral imperative that they fight back against their oppressors by any means necessary and white Westerners HAVE NO RIGHT to take a moral stand against that.
We had a walk-out to protest the war at my high school. I asked one of the teachers whom I knew to be anti-Bush if she was going to come with us. She flipped the fuck out and said we were "giving aid and comfort to the enemy." It has always been this way, but it will always be jarring.
I mean, would you not double down? It's kind of human nature to double down.
“Waaaah I might encounter people with different political opinions than me waaaaaah”
Not only that, but they likely won’t lol. They’re just paranoid because they decided to hang out with anti zionists and not pay attention to political bands instead of engaging with the bajillion things that pro Zionist. They’re like Musk. It’s not enough they have all the western countries and corporations supporting them. They want you to like them, and not doing so is akin to genocide.
I am tired of assuming everyone is a latent anti-Semite who is just hiding their views from me.
Being a Zionist is so fucking easy. It’s the default stance of the country. How the hell do you develop imposter syndrome for this lol. Maybe they suggested the genocide should be halted until they can get more weapons and everyone thinks they’re hamas
With that being said. Good. zionists deserve to be paranoid and scared and depressed and all the neuroses and mental illnesses. They deserve it. I hope zionists timidly reveal their views to me so I can traumatize them by simply staring in silence like
I wish I could just tell these people about the Cherokee and the Pawnee and all the other tribes that tried to ally with the whites. They'll never love you no matter how much you simp for racism and empire. They will deport you, victimize you, treat you like shit and force you to live in a shitty place if they don't kill you outright. You will never win by playing the white people games. Ho Chi Minh learned that the hard way and its one of the reasons I love him probably the most out of all the historical revolutionaries.
I empathize a bit. I do not want to speak to a zionist so long as I live.
Good. Maybe concerts will become affordable again. Too bad I like boomer bands though.
Sick profile pic, Red Green is a comrade of great respect. And yeah, fucking Billy Idol was gonna be like $400 before taxes. I can't imagine he's that huge of a draw, I'm a huge fan but that's uo to like a hundred bucks and what they bleed from me at the show.
Imagining Quattro Bajina being a big dadrock fan is an amusing thought
Hell yeah! Red Green is my life's trajectory
Sooner or later the concert bubble will bust and they'll have to build it all back from the ground up. At least for shows that are on the smaller side of pop royalty
Ah, there's your problem. If you listen to obscure metal or any punk band, tickets rarely go over $20.
Would it be wrong of me to suggest that if they hate it here so much they should move to Israel?
I've always hated "love it or leave it" because people use it for the slightest criticism, but this person legit could "benefit" from moving there.
Apropos of nothing: remember the reddit battalion in Ukraine? History rhymes. Or I guess people are treating this stuff like a fandom and literally dying for it.
I remember specifically how a bunch of them were posting videos with geotags to Reddit and Russia used it as targeting information for bombing runs
My favorite was the guy who charged an APC with a 12.7mm gun, firing like he was Serious Sam
Got turned into paint for his trouble
They should drive cybertruck to german embassy tbh, israel doesn’t need more kkkolonizers
not very active in jewish circles
i think this is going to be a recurring theme. i don't have solid data on this, but i reckon practicing Jews are more likely to be pro-palestinian.
Definitely depends on your synagogue and movement. Most Progressive and Reform Jews are either anti-Zionist or pro-palestinian or at the very least hand-wringy over the genocide (you'll see the "everything bad in Israel is solely Netanyahu's fault just like everything bad in Russia is Putin's and when we finally get them out it will be okay" bullshit from older people.)
Conservative Jews are, well, conservative and you're a lot more likely to see them being in this crowd of "everyone is an anti-Semite for not agreeing with my enthusiastic support of this totally not a genocide and also my wishes for this to actually become a genocide" nonsense.
Orthodox Jews are a lot harder to categorize on this, and you'll see substantial variation in opinion from community to community.
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There's a major sort of undercurrent in the backs of the minds of many diaspora Jews in North America, that as conditions continue to worsen and actual antisemitism continues to rise, that we will either have to or be forced as a whole group to leave our homes and go to Israel, which would in this hypothetical be the only safe country on the planet for Jews. This colours some people's opinions towards essentially being "Zionism-neutral," heavily critical of Israel's government and culture, but ultimately unwilling to be firmly against the continued occupation of Palestine. This is something that the Israeli government is actively pushing for, both in terms of popularizing these brainworms and in actual practice, deliberately supporting antisemitic movements and politicians in the hopes of effectively forcing the diaspora's hands to move to Israel.
