“All of these countries are ethnostates! Why can’t we have one? Because we’re Jewish?”
“Because genocide.”
“Point being?”
https://fxtwitter.com/jewishwonk/status/1788543985729884390?s=46
It doesn’t matter if there are dozens of ethnic minority groups in a country. When it comes to justifying the worst evil, they all get lumped into “whites” and “Asians” or “blacks”
Just as it has been for centuries. Race “scientists” usually divide humanity in to three overall races. “Caucusoids” and two other “-oids” based on the Mongols and the n word.
An important thing to raise here is that the minority don’t just live in the countries, they also get equal rights. Zionists flip-flop between wanting Israel to be an ethnostate where the minorities should be killed/removed and an apartheid state with Palestinians as an eternal underclass.
It was actually a controversial dilemma among early Zionists in the Yishuv since many understood that things would get permanently more complicated if Arabs are even "permitted" as an underclass, as their planned Jewish state will eventually come to rely on them as an exploitable labor force among other things. It's the same way that the South African government trying to "separate an omelette" with Apartheid, as the last President before its dismantlement pointed out.
Japan is sort of an ethnostate, though not as starkly so as Israel (nor as starkly so as "homogeneity" chuds pretend it is)
Also it's not like any of us don't criticize Japan, we have the
emoji for several reasonsHe brought up the fucking UAE as if we don't wish it dies ignobly alongside Israel lol
If Japan started treating it's Ainu, Ryukyu, Korean, or Chinese minority as bad as Israel treats palestinians then they would've been nuked again by now. Clearly, the only way for Israel to be a proper ethnostate is to give the Arab countries and Iran nukes.
Wow, I didn't know that the Mongolians expelled the original European inhabitants of Mongolia and interned the rest into an open-air concentration camp
Also, lmao @ Zionists juggling the "there is no Genocide in Ba Sing Se", "ackshully Hamas is genociding Jews", and "genocide is good actually" cards at the same time.
I feel like their arguments always eventually become "Well other countries got to do genocide or colonialism, why can't we?"
Ethnostate is when your population is predominantly one ethnicity. This is why America is not a settler colony, while China is. I am very smart. What are "policies"?
Fascists all have the same talking points. Indian Hindutva fascists bring up all the countries with a state religion to justify having their own ethnostate.
Estonia and Armenia were part of a secular multicultural state.
I was (charitably) listening to a podcast episode on the phenomenon of left antisemitism yesterday and on the topic of anti-zionism one host claimed leftists not giving the same level of attention to Hindutva fascism was indicative of antisemitism. I'm sure this will grow to become more of a thing in left consciousness; already Hindutva fascists managed to get Newsom to veto the California state bill outlawing caste discrimination, so their role in the US has reached the point of influencing domestic politics. To me it's obvious that anti-zionism occupies more space on the left because I keep running into people who served in the IDF in professional circles and you can get fired for speaking out against zionism and our government just gave israel however many billions of dollars and celebrated it. Zionism thrusts its way into my life unavoidably; israeli and US society are very tightly integrated.
claimed leftists not giving the same level of attention to Hindutva fascism was indicative of antisemitism.
I'd say this is not correct and is probably because Israel is undertaking an extremely violent and naked genocide campaign that the USA primarily funds and the other Western allies support and defend. It's always gonna get more attention unless the BJP government decides to do something extremely bad.
even modern-day Armenia is wrestling with an actual ethnostate that occupies its territory and expels its people (Azerbaijan)
I've got bad news for you about how many ethnostates came to be
Funny he brings up Estonia of all places. Yeah, please, do elaborate...
Estonia made a third of the population stateless in the 90s by not recognising the citizenship of anyone who emigrated (or their children) after the 1940s from memory
I was more alluding to its thorough collaboration during the Holocaust contributing to its “homogeneity” but yeah, fuck the modern Estonian state. No wonder it was cheering on Israel back in October.
It's actually anti-semitic to not allow Israel to be an ethbostate and to commit genocide
Zionists would vote for a 100% Hitler and sign Haavara agreements with him.
zionists would vote for a 105% hitler over a 100% hitler
Like there is some history of what can be called colonization in Finland and Japan, with the Ainu in Japan and Sami people in Finland. But like these places resemble ethnostates based more off of geographic and language isolation.
If Japan spoke English as a second language the same way you see in former British colony states, you can bet your ass that island would be full of immigrants and non-japanese people.
But it's an island with a language that is really hard for Westerners to learn.
Finland is a snowy wasteland most the year, so yeah not a lot of people want to live there, so only the people who have always lived there live there. Finnish is also a hard language for not Scandinavians to learn.
The other countries are just absolutely pulled out his ass, I think, but again are probably more ethnostate like due to geographic issues and not because some people started colonizing it in the last century and kicked out the modern native population that was living there forever
Also Finland is in the EU. So any other EU citizen can move there and work whenever they want.
Finland is a snowy wasteland most the year, so yeah not a lot of people want to live there, so only the people who have always lived there live there. Finnish is also a hard language for not Scandinavians to learn.
Finland has multiple times been caught out in its repression and turning away of immigrants, in 2023 setting up concrete barriers topped with barbed wire and accusing Russia of so-called “hybrid warfare” when faced with an influx of asylum-seeking migrants. You don't have to defend Finland like this in order to be against Israel.
Cool. I did not know this. Thanks for educating.
it's a hard language for scandinavians to learn, since finnish is entirely unrelated to swedish, danish, norwegian, etc.
it's closer to russian than it is to any of the Scandinavian languages
lol no it isnt, it's exactly as far from russian as it is from the scandinavian languages. cos you see, finnish is an uralic language, while scandinavian languages and russian are indoeuropean.
IIRC a lot of words are borrowed from russian, like niet which comes from the russian nyet, no? maybe my sources are just bad
sure, and a lot are borrowed from swedish, low german, who knows what. i dont think their word for "no" is borrowed though, nor does it seem to be "niet".
ethnostate
ˈɛθnəʊsteɪtnoun
a sovereign state of which citizenship is restricted to members of a particular racial or ethnic group.I'm pretty sure homeboy doesn't know the definition of an ethnostate, so I'd thought it post it here in case he randomly sees this.
Sure is curious why Zionist talking points so often intersect with WhiteNat/NeoNazi talking points ("Asia for Asians, Africa for Africans, Huwhite countries for everyone! Why can't we have a state like the others?! WAAA").
Neither Mongolia, nor Finland are ethnostates... I Do not think Armenia is either. Lots of turkic ethnicities live in Mongolia and Finland has sami and swedes. Neither are supressed.
Estland is a ethnostate, it supresses its russian minority, Japan shits all over its ainu, ryukyu and korean citizens.
I'd leave it to one of our Finnish comrades to go into detail, but I thought there actually is/was repression of the Sami in Finland. IIRC there was a UN resolution about it as recently as a couple years ago.
Yeah, hearkening back to Japanese genocide is not a good rhetorical flourish
Not huge surprise that they supported artsakh cleansing then, huh. They just helping small bean azerbaijan to maintain blood purity
I always love this reasoning that because a bunch of countries have killed people and took their land that makes it ok.
I'm sure they would apply this same logic and have zero complaints if tou went to their house and killed their whole family and took their house.
They vocally defend that being ok every chance they get.
So....according to this prick Hitler did nothing wrong?
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