When this ethnic cleansing is over, the West Bank and Gaza are fully annexed and integrated with a majority Jewish population, educated Israeli citizens will be disgusted with the way that Israel historically treated Palestinians
So to translate....as long as future Israelis feel bad about current events, then 👍
Also, the whole "Palestinians will genocide the Jews".....no; don't confuse Palestinians with Nazis. Palestinians even today differentiate between zionists and everyone else, and they're aware and appreciate the efforts of Jewish people in Israel who've supported them. This kind of simplified understanding of the world that robs people of agency is exactly why I hate libs.
The Palestinian cause has been an important part of anti-colonial struggle for decades and decades and I don't think a lot of people, especially libs, know that or understand what it means.
Can’t convince someone to believe something he’s paid to not think about.
So to translate…as long as future Israelis feel bad about current events, then 👍
If they follow the American model, instead of being self-reflective, they will instead make sports team mascots out of the people they annihilated
"And playing today are...the....Tel Aviv ORPHAAAAAAANS!"
(cheering Israeli libs)
So while I don’t like the current state of Israel, it’s infinitely better than a state of Palestine. When this ethnic cleansing is over, the West Bank and Gaza are fully annexed and integrated with a majority Jewish population, educated Israeli citizens will be disgusted with the way that Israel historically treated Palestinians. Eventually, just as blacks got their rights slowly and through internal struggle, so will Palestinians in Israel.
Shit like this is exactly why I think that the only true form of decolonization is to send the colonist back from whence he came. The very existence of the settler colonial states is proof positive that you can do whatever heinous genocidal crimes you want now and your grand children will enjoy all the benefits consequence-free, especially if they pretend to be a bit sad that it happened.
So while I don’t like the current state of Israel, it’s infinitely better than a state of Palestine. When this ethnic cleansing is over, the West Bank and Gaza are fully annexed and integrated with a majority Jewish population, educated Israeli citizens will be disgusted with the way that Israel historically treated Palestinians. Eventually, just as blacks got their rights slowly and through internal struggle, so will Palestinians in Israel.
this is like saying if the Nazi won and successfully exterminate all undesirables, they'll feel bad about it. wow cool, glad that you managed to go thru the process of mental self heal, buddy.
oh yeah? you like to play Heart of Iron 4: the new order as Dengist Speer? wow good to know
Lol “blacks” got a compromise after armed, black communists were recruiting people who were disillusioned with the government killing and beating peaceful protestors who followed MLK, so they had to give in nominally to the nonmilitant camp
Considering Israel has no qualms about leveling entire apartments with families inside, I don’t think they’re gonna care that much about a Palestinian MLK. They’ll probably snipe him and air strike his corpse to be sure
Good thing every single American seems to keep yammering on about how they're German or French or whatever so the rest of the EU can help put.
I feel this weird urge to defend them even though I supposedly no longer identify with them. Shouldn't I be happy that they all deserve to suffer and die?
TL;DR: "The US is a preferable model of racial justice and reparations for genocide compared to decolonization, which is idealistic and tankie"
Remember when the US killed off all the continent's native peoples and then there was never another race kerfuffle in the country ever again?
I'm sure once Israel is done with the Sisyphusian task of massacring its primary labor force, the Western European migrants and the Eastern European migrants will all shake hands and break bread and never again find any reason to turn their guns on one another.
preferable among racists who want to avoid justice and reparations
Today on How It's Made: Vaush opinions
>Be middle to upper class American, age 16-24
>Get mad at The Left after another long day of thinking and crying
> Want them to share your unimaginable pain
>Lightbulb over head
>Find popular progressive opinion (any will do)
>Make sure its still a hot conversation topic online
>hmm how about "Freedom for Palestine"
>Reverse the victims/targets
>Reverse the instigator
>Now we're cookin
>Step 2 engage
>Pick a humanitarian cause (again any will do)
>Education? Everyone loves that
>Step 3: Finale
>Pick a well known/respected emancipation movement to compare it all to (you know the drill)
>Jk its the US Civil Rights movement again cuz youre American
>(make sure to remind the audience you hate violence if anyone tries to tell you how that really went. keep saying that everyday for the next week and eventually start calling yourself an "Average Peace Enjoyer" until it gets boring or Luna Oi posts again. Post about how much the mere existence of the Average Peace Enjoyer upsets people every step of the way)
>Voila, here's your finished masterpiece
>Palestinians would make a terrible government so the better option is to let Israel finish annexing them, which incidentally is fine because we'll all feel bad once its done, then educate them and give out Civil Rights reparations
Congratulations, you now know how to be a Vaushite.
That user is seemingly Israeli, or is very invested in the topic.
like its oh so inventible that they go extinct
Isn't one of the primary "we're not doing a genocide" arguments coming out of pro-Israeli groups a standing complaint that the Palestinian birthrate has outpaced the Israeli birthrate for decades? Hell, isn't one of Israel's biggest challenges importing enough older whiter vaguely-Ashkenazi settlers in large enough numbers to maintain their foothold in the settlement communities?
Basically the same problem Apartheid South Africa had 50 years ago. Or the Spanish and Portuguese had in Latin America and the Caribbean centuries ago, when the governing Europeans weren't migrating over nearly fast enough to match the post-pandemic decimated natives and African slave-migrants reproduction rates.
Hell, this tends to be the fate of nearly every colonial power outside the US core states. Even then, you kinda have to ignore that the original migrants were Protestant while the bulk of the subsequent migration were Catholics.
like oh whoopsie we wish we could do something against the genocide, but alas its the way god intents it
It really does boil down to the most Nazi-tier shit imaginable. Genocide not even out of some tribal conflict or war over domestic resources, but simply because of an ideological commitment to European racial purity.
Ultimately, no, because I believe in the eventual erosion of the coercive force of the state.
This is where they pretend to be an anarchist. This is an important part of the Vaushite grift.
an inevitable genocide of the millions if Palestinians ever seize power.
The Palestinians are being genocided right now, but we can't stop it because of fear of reprisal. This is a classic white supremacist/colonizer justification for doing nothing.
the international community is largely on Israel’s side.
America and its closest allies are on Isreal's side, but the majority of the "international" community isn't.
We leftists need to ask, do we really want another Islamic dictatorship in the region?
Even if we take it as a given that the victorious Palestinians would from an "Islamic dictatorship" (an assumption that is more than a little bit racist), Marx himself is quite clear on this point: socialists must support national liberation movements even if they do not result in socialist governments. Isreal as it currently exists is infinitely more well-equipped to suppress working class movements than an independent Palestine would be
When this ethnic cleansing is over, the West Bank and Gaza are fully annexed and integrated with a majority Jewish population, educated Israeli citizens will be disgusted with the way that Israel historically treated Palestinians.
What the fuck. "Just let the ethnic cleansing play out, and in a hundred years Isreali children will be disgusted with what their grandparents did." As we all know, white Americans are famously pro-indigenous rights because of our disgust for what our ancestors did.
In the inevitable future supreme state of Israel, the faster that we leftists accept the state of Israel is here to stay, the faster our ideology will resonate in the Israelis that will create free and Democratic conditions for Palestinians.
Literally "if we become more right wing, the right wingers will like us more." I have it on good authority that no matter what "we leftists" do, ethnonationalist zealots are going to continue hating us, and the only way to get them to stop would be to compromise our beliefs so completely that we cease to be in any reasonable definition "leftists". That's basically what the entire Vaush project is leading towards, and why many lefties rightly exclude Vaush and his followers from their definition of "the left".
America and its closest allies are on Isreal’s side, but the majority of the “international” community isn’t.
very notably the arab world which is all of Israels neighbors are on Palestine's side.
they control the whole world
where "whole world" is the same subset of countries that are western lackeys
AlwaysTheSameMap
The industrialized western powers have historically exerted tremendous pressure on the Third World.
Whether we're talking about Duque's Columbia or Marcos's Phillipines or Modi's India or Ing-wen's Taiwan, the Western Imperial Era is defined by the degree to which western lackeys dominate governments of the Global South.
Cuba is notable precisely because it has resisted installation of a puppet government for so long. And the collapse in the number of lackey governments along the Pacific Rim and throughout Central/South America seems to signal a general decline in the reach and extent of control out of DC and London.
Wouldn't work if they tried it There are as many Palestinians as Israelis and trying would very likely put them into an unwinnable war with all their neighbors
Honestly, im starting to really belive that this man has shit on him that some security agency knows about, and he's bascily a synthetic left figure that is the equal to the amry wifu streamer but as a well posining debate bro that exists to fracture the left. Either that or he's just a useful tool.
Didn't Vaush get banned from Twitch because he said that Israel should be bombed back to the stone age? This just shows that he's a completely disingenuous grifter.
"What if you took the politics of the poor and downtrodden, and re-appropriated them to be for shitty upper-middle class radlibs to feel edgy and moralistic about?"
