Edit: you know what? Fuck this place. I’m not gonna argue with a bunch of pedantic assholes all day.
A short rant because I got banned for saying that there’s a lot of anti-blackness in the Asian community. (Basically, I said that a lot of people are heavily influenced by the handful of sensationalized reports of homeless mentally ill black people attacking Asian people. I also said that they weaponized their fear to end AA and increase already ballooning levels of mass incarceration.)
I’m tired of black oppression only being relevant when it can be directly used to argue for a larger caused. I’m tired of pointing out obvious racism only for people to turn around and be like, Nu-uh you’re the real racist! I’m tired of having to pretend that I’m not impacted by any of this only for other people to mock the oppression they also pretend isn’t real most of the time. I’m tired of wondering if being alive is even worth it not because I hate myself but because the world is so irrevocably racist, hypocritical and just nasty in general.
Fuck off, man. Hella people before you-- including Asian folk and Black folk on both sides of the line-- have talked about this without making it sound like inflicting carceral slavery on my community was a solution. Please fuck off, fuck all the way off, and then keep going when you reach Go again. As of right now, I don't believe your bonafides, and I don't respect this tryna make your beef with the mods public.
At least when I did it, it was something I could defend and positively fight, how the fuck you gonna defend "I thought the removal of AA and the increase in mass incarceration would’ve pacified them, but apparently not."????? Ain't no kinfolk I've ever listened to.
You made an incredibly racist comment and you got banned. Suck it up and be thankful it wasn't a siteban
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A lot of those who claimed to see an increase are probably conflating actual hate crimes with the handful of cases of mentally ill homeless black people randomly targeting Asian people. I thought the removal of AA and the increase in mass incarceration would’ve pacified them, but apparently not.
I dont see their original comment in the modlog, am I just missing it or what is going on with that.
You can use the filter by user box at the top of the https://hexbear.net/modlog but the comment should be the first one in the "one hour ago" part of the log at this moment
I found it in the mod log, then went back to check to make sure I wasn't being crazy that it was racist, and it wasn't there.
I believe when you click on the mod log button in specific comms it takes you to that comm's specific section of the modlog. Example you click the modlog button on this page and it should take you to c/Chat modlog
Like how you're normalizing violence against Asian Americans and stigmatizing the homeless and mentally ill by outright dismissing Asian American concerns while making a bigoted comment in what seems like a tasteless and tone-deaf joke about about the removal of Asian Americans and the American industrial complex would've somehow made the hate crimes go away?
Yeah no I'm passing this up the ladder now.
not to defend the guy cos i agree with you, but i don't think 'removal of AA' is Asian Americans, I think it's Affirmative Action
A good and likely guess that will never be answered since the coward deleted their account
Solving the mistake of their even having an account here in the first place in real fuckin time.
The way your original comment was phrased definitely came off as racist and I think the mod did the right thing. This is a learning moment.
A short rant because I got banned for saying that there’s a lot of anti-blackness in the Asian community. (Basically, I said that a lot of people are heavily influenced by the handful of sensationalized reports of homeless mentally ill black people attacking Asian people. I also said that they weaponized their fear to end AA and increase already ballooning levels of mass incarceration.)
Honestly its disappointing that this happened because its a real thing and pointing this out shouldn't be something that gets you banned.
Edit: Just organizing my thoughts a bit and adding a bit more to this. But for those that seem to have a hard time understanding where this is coming from. Think about how all of these politicians and media sources are banging on about China. China is spying on you. China is the cause of the COVID pandemic. The Chinese have secret bases in the US, Canada, and Western Europe. China, China, China! This does a lot to increase anti-Asian hate. Yet do we see a lot of the larger [neo-liberal and conservative] Asian advocacy groups pointing out how these people are propagating negative feelings around Chinese and Asian people in general? Not as much as we should. But if a news story along the ones that whatap described comes out then, usually, there would be a statement released by one of these advocacy groups about the need to address anti-Asian hate, which is fine. But also comes up short when, as stated before, it doesn't really address the larger issue at hand of the American, and in particular white, elite is doing to propagate anti-Asian hate.
That’s really disappointing. I’m Asian and it’s absolutely true, we have to deal with the anti-blackness in our community. Pointing it out doesn’t make someone racist
Edit: Having reread the original comment I agree it's worded poorly. I think it unintentionally stigmatizes homeless and mentally ill people by portraying them as attackers, devoid of the context that they are much more likely to be victims of violence (even if OP said that it was just a handful of cases, I think having that context about anti-homeless and saneist violence is important.) The second part of the comment, "I thought the removal of AA and the increase in mass incarceration would’ve pacified them, but apparently not" seems to have been attempted sarcasm. Anti-Blackness in Asian-American communities is still an issue, I like this post about the how "Stop Asian Hate" is an insufficient framework to address said Asian hate. This is not to say that anti-Asian hate fueled by sinophobia isn't rising, of course.
A short rant because I got banned for saying that there’s a lot of anti-blackness in the Asian community.
I was thinking about this a lot lately from the perspective of business owners, triggered by reading comments of the John Ong/Ong brothers case in new york.
Lower income non-Black communities, with preconceived notions from media, are siphoned into predominantly Black communities through business grants or pricing or whatever. Some can integrate but others that hold onto these prejudices are reaffirmed by their experiences(if you're scared of spiders, the hair fuzzies in your bathroom look like spiders). When you're not integrated, you'll likely keep police on speed dial or take matters into your own hands, which only escalate things and cause you to feel/be less safe while simultaneously making the community unsafe.
I think it's an important conversation but as you mentioned, people are stuck on the sensationalized stories to shape their worldview(then push for more policing) instead of understanding the root of crime. Also the messaging on Asian violence is sus, especially when it's boiled down to anti-Black anti-homeless policy.
