Gendered slur edited out. Alice sucks even when she's correct. :deeply-reactionary:

Uncensored source tweet: https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/AliceAvizandum/status/1627386501532114945

  • HarryLime [any]
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    1 year ago

    "regular women" like an alien robot that transforms into a car

  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    Kill James Bond but especially Alice has been super big on C and F slurs lately. This and the unbridled horny for women actors that makes me sometimes feel like I'm listening to 14 year old dudes and it's like, can you not

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        It's cool to objectify woman actors if you're a trans lesbian. That makes it woke.

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              I haven't said the "T" word in weeks to see how long I could go without doing so.

              Moments like this and the delivery method of "if you don't like (questionable product) don't consume (questionable product)" cliche being used with a "shut up and never criticize (questionable product) again" implication to the message makes it hard to maintain that "T" fast. :sweat:

            • Ziege_Bock [any]
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              1 year ago

              I'd just like to say that I do not want to be understood to be defending Kill James Bond, as I consider it to be a low quality podcast.

              • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                What did you want, then? For criticism of that podcast to stop because you don't approve of criticism? :fry:

                • Ziege_Bock [any]
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                  1 year ago

                  I don't know that I want anything out of this exchange. I don't expect to get anything either. I'm going to have to think about it for a spell, but I'm pretty sure I was just shit posting. Feel free to stop reading there, but I kind of want to cook for a bit. I guess this is becoming a journaling exercise.

                  I guess I'd say that while I think that the artist and performance are always valid targets for criticism, I understood the earlier comments to be less of a criticism and more of a complaint. the difference being that a critique is a somewhat disaffected judgement or observation, while a complaint is a register of dissatisfaction with the object.

                  I suppose I took a small degree of umbrage to the idea of someone lodging a complaint about the personal demeanor or comportment of a podcaster on a show that is anchored in the social interactions of the hosts. Full disclosure: I listened to an ep or two of KJB when it first came out and found it grating and stopped, but not before forming the opinion that it's not really a book report kind of podcast, people aren't really listening to it for movie summations or reviews; it's a show about three people watching a movie as a pretext to vibe with each other and maybe make some money.

                  I feel that this makes a complaint about Alice's behavior, demeanor, or personality a redundant point to make. "I don't like the show, which is the personalities of the hosts, because of aspects of the hosts personalities. If that's the case, then I'd say you'd either just resolve yourself to making peace with the aspects of the show you find unpalatable or you stop listening to the show. Hence the "take it or leave it," sentiment I expressed earlier (which I admit was a little brusque).

                  It reminds me of a throwaway Simpsons joke, where Flanders is making small talk at a party and says "You know, I like those Woody Allen movies, except that he's always got that nervous guy in them." It's a silly thing to do, right? It'd be more efficient and concise to say you don't like Alice or some of her behaviors; which, by the way, same.

                • Ziege_Bock [any]
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                  1 year ago

                  well shoot, I hope my comment didn't make you feel bad. I just kind of think those are the two primary options when confronted with a less than desirable aspect of a thing which cannot be separated from that thing as a whole. I guess It could only be interpreted as a terse defense though. I will consider removing the post.

    • Barabas [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah, the horny is off the charts from Alice and Abby. Ah, a woman enters the film, let us discuss which of our fetishes she aligns with.

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        Unless someone is captured and tied up in any suggestive way. Alice despises only that kind of fetishisation.

  • hypercube [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    tbf I also forget that that word is a way bigger deal to americans than to us bri'ish. love me chips, love me gendered slurs, love me pint. if you don't like it, there's the door

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Never before have the British lacked care or consideration for anyone else in the world by trouncing over their cultural norms and imposing their own wherever they go! :ukkk: :hypersus: :ukkk:

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Women in the United States don't matter if the le epic :reddit-logo: word is ostensibly accepted across :ukkk: :soypoint-2:

          • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            i don't care for the cultural norms of the global hegemon in general :shrug-outta-hecks:

            and i don't see how yankee women are harmed by british people calling other british people a word that americans consider a slur

            to be clear before people start yelling at me:
            i am not advocating for allowing people to say it on this website, this is an american site and uses american cultural norms, where the word is considered a pretty high-end slur
            and that's fine
            however in the uk and Ireland, it is generally only considered a strong swear word, a step above calling someone a shit head or something

  • MaoistLandlord [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Comics writer Simon Furman took the position that Transformers were asexual machines who had no genders. Although Arcee originally appeared in the 1986 Transformers movie, she did not appear in comics until 1989. In the Marvel UK story "Prime's Rib," Optimus Prime deliberately manufactures Arcee as an ostensibly female robot in an attempt to appease a mob of angry human feminists (yes, really). Furman later revised Arcee's origins in the 2008 IDW issue of "Transformers: Spotlight." In this story, Arcee began life as a typically gender-neutral Autobot who was then modified by Jhiaxus in an attempt to arbitrarily introduce the concept of gender to the Cybertronian species. This could be interpreted as the first time Arcee was identified as transgender, as the modifications made to her could be seen as analogous to a gender reassignment surgery.

    This is so bizarre to get angry at lol. The entire point of robots is that they're not "regular women" or humans at all. They act based on the information fed to them. This is about as normal/regular as it gets. Ironically, it says that this Jhiaxus character introduced 'gender ideology' to a robot that otherwise wouldn't have one, so it's not really Arcee's fault because she never asked for it.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    The story arc came from a grossly "female characters exist to suffer" writing direction, so it kind of sucked there anyway.

    (CW: dysphoria, psychological torture, generally chuddy writing)

    spoiler
     Main article: Arcee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity
    

    Sibling of Galvatron, Arcee of the Darklands was an ancient warrior, hailing from the prehistoric era that predated modern Transformer civilization, serving under the fearsome tyrant Megatronus during the wars that led to the unification of Cybertron under the Thirteen. Origin Myths "Forged male," Arcee would eventually seek out the assistance of the amoral scientist Jhiaxus for assistance, after the First Cybertronian Civil War. Seeking to reintroduce the concept of "gender" to the species after its mysterious elimination, Arcee would be altered at the genetic level—but Jhiaxus's callous treatment of his patient would change Arcee into a raging berserker. She could only focus on exacting bloody revenge against him and all that he had created, Spotlight: Arcee Post finally getting even with her tormentor after the thwarting of Nova Prime's Expansion. Spotlight: Sideswipe

    It would not be until after the end of the Great War that Arcee would truly embark on the long road to recovery; first falling in with the amoral Prowl as a private enforcer, A Better Tomorrow and later with Optimus Prime, The Mind Bomb Arcee was able to slowly work past her many demons, finding companionship, camaraderie, and even love in her new role as Optimus Prime's advisor—having lived through the era of the Thirteen and experienced their many atrocities firsthand, Arcee remained unafraid to call out her new leader as he verged closer and closer to repeating their mistakes. But when those mistakes came home to roost in the form of Unicron, Unstopped and Unstoppable Arcee played an instrumental role in the battle against the planet-eater before settling into a new life on Earth with Aileron.

    https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Arcee_(G1)

    • Waldoz53 [he/him,any]
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      1 year ago

      yeah even though i stan trans arcee its not because of simon furman's shitty writing. the whole traumatic trans women writing is so bad

      the later IDW comics writers were MUCH better about gender/sexuality in transformers anyways

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        yeah even though i stan trans arcee its not because of simon furman’s shitty writing. the whole traumatic trans women writing is so bad

        It is possible to have a dysphoria story without it being written by a misogynist chud like Simon Furman for sure.

        Similarly, it's possible for a gay couple to experience loss without it being a tiresome "kill off one of them because otherwise an ongoing gay relationship is too uncomfortable for :grillman: " cliche written by chuds and for chuds.

        the later IDW comics writers were MUCH better about gender/sexuality in transformers anyways

        They sure were.

  • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    transformers: identifying as attack helicopters literally, rather than as a crude transphobic joke

  • 2Password2Remember [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    she really is the worst. constantly talking over everyone else on TF, it makes the podcast so much less enjoyable

    Death to America

  • PeludoPorFavor [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    cisformers would be cissies changing to be more cis.

    men scared about their hairline getting plugs and dick enlargements. women getting buccal fat removal and bigger tits and asses.

    i'd rather just watch the robots fighting.

    • Waldoz53 [he/him,any]
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      1 year ago

      yeah, but only in one specific comic book canon. its just very poorly written (trans trauma) and probably the low point of the IDW comics, since it was trying to explain how female transformers exist, and did so SO poorly