https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/feb/23/florida-lawyer-jailed-pregnant-woman-fetal-personhood-reproductive-rights

  • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Excited to see how Florida publicly twists themselves into the position of "a fetus has rights only in the exact circumstances with which we can use it as a legal weapon against women but never for women"

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Florida legal logic might be... If a woman wants an abortion - she's a unfit mother so we must protect the life of the unborn child. A fetus is a child of the mother and as a preborn pre-minor it does not deserve its own defense.

      • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Florida singlehandedly creating an entire demographic of people not protected by the Bill of Rights, literally :1984:

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I don't see how this doesn't become one of those dream cases for restricting women's repro rights further and promoting fetal personhood.

    like they'll say, "yeah it's a person" so put her in some shitty private "medical" house arrest situation run by evangelical religious nuts until the kid is born and spirited into the arms and legal parentage of some glassy-eyed fash family, then dump mom's bleeding body into a cell and make her actual sentence start then. like basically the church run horror shows they had in Ireland in like the 40s or whatever.

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      This. This is exactly what will happen if they extend the "fetal personhood" nonsense to criminal cases.

      Don't think for one second that they will slow the social murder machine down just because somebody said gotcha to them.

      • dRLY [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        At that point it also creates other doors for kidnapping charges if a woman was trying to escape from a domestic abuser while pregnant. So then the new mother now has to leave the newborn with that same abuser while being sent to prison. Or they could even charge for providing drugs to a minor if they have any traces of any banned drugs like weed. So then if the mother isn't even aware they were pregnant before going to a doctor, any tests could be flagged to alert pigs.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    injecting sperm into your wife all the time so she can commit crimes with impunity because its illegal to jail pregnant women :shrug-outta-hecks:

  • JohnBrownsBussy [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    “The fetal personhood movement has certainly gained traction, moving from a fringe idea to codified laws across the country,” a spokesperson for Pregnancy Justice said in a statement, adding: “And while their goal is to stop abortion and control people’s bodily autonomy, they’ve given little thought to how this impacts all facets of the law beyond abortion … There’s no telling where this will end: HOV lanes, taxes, worker’s comp child custody/kidnapping cases, criminal law, and on and on.”

    Imagine when a pregnant woman is forced to remain with an abusive partner because to do otherwise would be to kidnap her own fetus.

    :amerikkka:

    • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      she's on video shooting somebody in the back of a car over nothing, she deserves adequate prenatal care and not to be abused as a ward of the state but the rest of society needs to be protected from her.

  • Coolkidbozzy [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I think we should instead decriminalize all crimes but only for women, and see what happens

  • RonaldMcReagan [he/him]
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    edit-2
    2 years ago

    One day: 'Florida fetus sentenced to 7 month enwombment 7 years post-birth imprisonment after being found guilty on conspiracy charge, after mother's wreckless driving kills 4 injures 1.'

    Edit:just realised how many other people are thinking the same thing jokingly, which means it's far more likely that this will actually happen :this-is-fine:

  • shath [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    my veins and arteries are illegally detained in my body and i am going to free them

  • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Bro the fetus is already detained inside the woman's womb. It won't be "free" if you let the woman walk.