• ennemi [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    normies loved it

    a relative of mine once told me "you remind me of sheldon!!" and I legitimately wanted to bazinga myself

    • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Every autistic person has heard this. Just like every person with dark hair and glasses has heard "you look like Harry Potter".

      • sovietknuckles [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        An ex of mine literally fetishized autism, told me I reminded her of Leonard. She did not like hearing that Sheldon was better than Leonard but that I didn't like BBT anyway. Months after we broke up, she posted a picture of Leonard on Facebook, saying how she wished more people were like Leonard

          • sovietknuckles [they/them]
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            1 year ago

            They didn't understand the struggles of ASD at all, said "You're fine the way you are, why aren't you more confident about it? Just be yourself". Given that 80% of my social interactions are masking, that doesn't help me at all lol

            • ennemi [he/him]
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              You’re fine the way you are, why aren’t you more confident about it? Just be yourself

              for what it's worth, it's basically impossible to explain how the first twenty years of your life amount to getting violently punished every time you try to "be yourself" to someone who hasn't experienced that

              • Changeling [it/its]
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                1 year ago

                One of my favorite things about having kids has been being autistic af around them and them returning the favor without blinking an eye. None of us round when we talk about the time. We make random stim noises at each other. We are very frank about our feelings and compensate for that by setting and enforcing explicit boundaries.

                My oldest told me last week, “I know there’s nothing wrong with what you’re doing, but I’m finding it annoying which is a sign that I’m probably overstimulated, so I’m sorry to interrupt what we’re doing but I’m going to go take a break and come back when I’m more regulated. If I’m not back in 20 minutes, I probably got distracted, so can you set a timer to come check on me?” Reflecting on it now, I could sob. If I’d had that level of insight and communication skills at their age I would have saved myself a LOT of pain. It’s not their job to make me proud, but I am so proud anyway.

                • nohaybanda [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  My oldest told me last week, “I know there’s nothing wrong with what you’re doing, but I’m finding it annoying which is a sign that I’m probably overstimulated, so I’m sorry to interrupt what we’re doing but I’m going to go take a break and come back when I’m more regulated. If I’m not back in 20 minutes, I probably got distracted, so can you set a timer to come check on me?”

                  :order-of-lenin:

                  That is genuinely awe inspiring. Good on them and good one you for nurturing this.

                • crime [she/her, any]
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                  1 year ago

                  That makes me so happy to hear, I can't imagine how much pain growing up in an environment like that would've saved me from

                  My wife and I are both autistic and we do similar things to you and your family, it's really nice

      • ennemi [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I've also been compared to Hagrid, and as much I as I'm tired of hearing about those mediocre TERF YA novels I have to admit it's kinda true

        • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          The one thing I refuse to let go of from my childhood love of HP is my love of Hagrid tbh.

          And yeah, I'm sort of sporting a Hagrid look these days myself.

        • neo [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          I have to admit it’s kinda true

          :shrug-outta-hecks:

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      a relative of mine once told me “you remind me of sheldon!!”

      I had a similar experience where the most :LIB: and the most :scared-fash: of my extended family (they're married to each other) said that I must be a big fan of The Big Bazinga Theory because I'm into nerdy things like... reading. :joker-shopping:

      • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Nerdy things like...reading.

        How the hell did the US ever become a global hegemony if attitudes like this are a non-isolated incident? I've dealt with this attitude before.

        • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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          1 year ago

          My pet theory is that anti-intellectualism in the US wasn't really pushed until the 60s onwards, therefore its effects have most been felt after US global hegemony.

        • Weedian [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          The nerds are all working for weapons and aerospace manufacturers or DoD contracted software companies

        • huf [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          immigrants. first gen immigrants who grew up without US brainworms.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Someone once compared me to one of the women and it is a real shame they were never seen again by anyone.

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Trek has a good excuse where it's a ship you live on and work on for like...years. there's an in universe practicality there where people tend to wanna work and live in places with lighting condusive to existing as a person and less for how dramatic it looks on TV. Trek is allowed to do flat lighting

            • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              I can't say it really gets better but it is s cult classic that appeals to some

            • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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              1 year ago

              I've had a super hard time so far with it and have given up repeatedly and I love boring Sci fi. The characters are just super unlikable and one dimensional. The commander guy is unironic Zapp Brannigan

    • 4zi [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      The Expanse could afford to do all the fancy sets and costumes and lighting because they hired the cheapest and worst actors in Hollywood

        • 4zi [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          I love the show, I’ve watched it three times. Doesn’t mean any of the acting was good.

            • 4zi [he/him, comrade/them]
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              1 year ago

              Steven Strait held the same strained facial expression for all 6 seasons and was overall just super flat, same with Chatham. Aghdashloo is a good actress overall but the writers absolutely were not writing her lines with her in mind, especially in the last two seasons. Tipper was only good during the story arc where they stole the Mormon ship and after IMO

                        • MoreAmphibians [none/use name]
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                          1 year ago

                          It could be a spin off called "Spin Gravity" and be about the political struggles of attempting to run Medina Station during the timeskip.

                            • MoreAmphibians [none/use name]
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                              1 year ago

                              I forgot she left Medina station in the show. Well, the show ended at the point where they can just put her back in charge of Medina in exchange for her faction standing down.

                  • Bobson_Dugnutt [he/him]
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                    1 year ago

                    They're pretty well-written and well-paced with interesting characters and worldbuilding, but they're not breaking any new ground or making you think tough questions. The first book is sort of a noir detective thriller, the rest are more like political/military thrillers, except #4 which is kind of a western. There's also a few short stories, and I've heard the audio book narrator is good.

      • raven [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Honestly having good actors in a sci-fi show has always been a red flag for me, second only to having fancy CGI.

    • RagingGingivitis [fae/faer, it/its]
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      1 year ago

      I wasn't expecting a well thought out response, but I read every sentence.

      There is something to be said for how 90’s Stark Trek kept its production costs low. Seems like you can also get away with a lot more artistically when you’re less expensive for a corporation

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      As much as we shit on “prestige TV” around here it does genuinely take a lot more effort to shoot, hence why you usually get like 3-5 seasons with like 10 episodes each. You need locations, which require location scouts, permits, scheduling, shutting down businesses and roads. Even if you’re shooting on sets they have a lot more dramatic light and unique camera angles that require DPs and grips.

      :I-was-saying: I'd totally enjoy shows that had quality locations, shooting, and lighting that weren't full of :awooga: :libertarian-alert: :hypersus:

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          I argue that's a false equivalence.

          Such fare existed, sure, but horny teenagers would have to wait for light night cable TV or go to grindhouse theaters and other seedy venues to find :awooga: :libertarian-alert: :hypersus: for the most part.

          It didn't have a P R E S T I G E label and as much clout, publicity, normalization, and above all else funding until around the turn of the century.

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              Isn’t that sorta just how media progresses over time though? Things that were “marginal” and “cult” slowly gain acceptance into the mainstream, become incorporated into it.

              Maybe, but as I previously said, it wasn't the exact same thing before. Things changed, became normalized, and after the Sopranos took off, the race was on to make the prestige lightning strike again and again in the same spots.

              Back on topic, as I said at the top of this comment chain, I'd like that kind of cinematographic effort to go into shows that weren't focused on :awooga: :libertarian-alert: :hypersus: as often.

                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  I'll agree to that much: if there was more entertainment with a decent budget and high production values that wasn't focused on "sexual violence and gory torture scenes are automatically smart and mature" gimmicks, I'd just enjoy more of those shows and probably have less to say about the rest.

          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            1 year ago

            Or just have cool parents. Mine paid more attention to what I was getting out of what I watched. I watched hellraiser before I was 10 because I was super into special effect and sorta mid tier creepshow kinda gore stuff. But say, pro wrestling was looked down on and I didn't really disagree cause they thought it was maybe too trashy and stupid. It was the 90s and wrestling lost the camp aspect for thst time so I can follow. I was still allowed to watch whatever but shittier stuff got not supported and things with substance did regardless of the sex or gore as long as it wasn't like a Serbian film or porn or whatever. I also took a more active interest in film and by my early teens my parents went off my recommendations. They also played video games with me and for sure are bigger gamers than I am now thst they've retired. I think there's a bit too mu h focus on content and less thinking especially on the individual parent's part causenthey know their kids best or should to not focus so much on what content there is strictly but how it's done. I'd hate to lose my sex and blood in movies cause that shit can be really fucking fun and had a better childhood for having it growing up,

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              At an individual level that's fine, but not everyone has the privilege of "cool" parents and not everyone is wired the same way. Likewise, some comrades :flag-asexual-pride: both here and offline have expressed frustration with an excessively horny-pandering emphasis on so much contemporary entertainment and they also deserve to be heard.

              I've seen enough actual blood, gore, and death in my lived life where I don't derive much entertainment value from the gimmick. A good story can have that stuff in it but as a marketing pitch I'm indifferent to put off by it.

              Back on the subject of wiring, just because something is personally preferable and desired doesn't mean it automatically goes that way for everyone else. It can be kind of unpredictable, really.

              As a personal example, the movie Aliens was just a fun and exciting action movie with some bearable but grisly moments in it to me even at a very young age, but for some reason the the G'mork in Neverending Story gave me nightmares for years.

              • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                1 year ago

                There's plenty of wholesome shmaltz out there if that's what you need. Otherwise what, we're supposed to make entertainment for adults but keep things rated pg? I'm not really sure what solution you would have here.

                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  Otherwise what, we’re supposed to make entertainment for adults but keep things rated pg

                  That's not the position I was taking but if you're going to conjure it up and put my name on it, I don't even know if we're having a discussion anymore.

                  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                    1 year ago

                    You gave a list of people who may not like certain entertainment for one reason or another. Aside from literally making everything family friendly in case an ace person might see a sex scene or whatever what would you suggest? These should either be adults or parents making informed decisions and since your own complaints seem to count the marketing of sex and violence as a problem as well, I'm not really sure what you want.

                    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                      1 year ago

                      Aside from literally making everything family friendly

                      I never asked for or even implied that was necessary. At most I was saying that more entertainment for people that don't have your specific demands and expectations would be a good thing.

                      You seem to take it like it's all a zero sum game and you get less sexual violence and/or gore if more "schmaltz" as you put it comes out instead.

                      I think I'm going to stop replying because judging by your posts in the megathread you're on an "adulting" warpath today as it is.

                      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                        1 year ago

                        I'm literally taking flamethrowers to anyone without a mortgage and a lawnmower.

    • join_the_iww [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Not sure I believe this. The Big Bang Theory couldn’t have been that cheap, Jim Parsons was the highest paid tv actor in the world at one point, making like $1M per episode.

  • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    It is a normal sitcom with some slight changes to the formula. People are so starved for variety that even this is enough to get people to enjoy the different stimulation.

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah all the other shit those people watch is like, a different middle aged guy with different annoying kids and a different asshole wife

  • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    one or two of the early episodes were actually funny the show then coasted on that goodwill for as long as is possible

    the big trouble with American tv is the inability to realise the better comedic payoff for a will they won't they is they don't

    • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Without being too Marvel-brained one of the first episodes had Leonard and Sheldon arguing in the comic store over whether Wolverine originally had bone claws and it lost me there.

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    I was told by people that I should like that show because I had a job for a while where I fixed computers. I couldn't watch more than 5 minutes of it. it's a show about dorks made for idiots. a show about dorks made by actual dorks would be more like Silicon Valley.

    anyway, America is chock full people with heads full of damp sawdust. they are probably the idea demo for advertisers, because they can show a commercial with a McDonalds hamburger and some Coca-cola and they will "think" about that meal for days.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah, when I think of dork shows for dorks I think of The IT Crowd or Black Books.

      They're a bit tainted now though because of the Most Divorced Guy In The World, though at least every single lead actor he has ever worked with denounced his TERF shit.

    • RagingGingivitis [fae/faer, it/its]
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      1 year ago

      i saw part of an episode where one of the neckbeards sexually harassed Penny, said it was okay because he was lonely, and then she apologized to him for being mad.

      turned it off and will not watch it again. death to all bazingas.

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        Be glad you stopped watching there, that guy (Howard) does a lot more sex pest shit on the show. And Penny sets him up with one of her friends, despite knowing all about his sleazy character.

        Incredible writing, I know. Chuck Lorre masterclass

      • chickentendrils [any, comrade/them]
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        One my fiance's friends in China recommended this show for learning English. She liked other schlock - Friends and Monk were entertaining enough - but we tried to watch Big Bang together and episode 1 was enough for us... I guess it was the pilot but that's somehow more confusing, that it actually got picked up.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      I've enjoyed problematic things in the past with later regret upon reflection, but I got mental allergic reactions to Big Bazinga Theory from the very start.

      Every time it was on a screen anywhere, such as when I was visiting family or in-laws, even a few seconds of it at a time wasn't just irritating, it was infuriating. Even before I knew what the show was called, its entire presentation pissed me off and its gross misogyny was there from the start.

      THE FEMALE OF THE SPECIES :so-true: laughtrack

      OH ITS ON LIKE ALDERAAN :so-true: laughtrack

      YOU CAN'T GO ON A DATE! IT'S HALO(tm)(r) NIGHT :soypoint-1: :freeze-gamer: :soypoint-2: laughtrack

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      I'll admit I watched the first few seasons, but the series really lost the plot when they decided to try give all the male main characters girlfriends/wives. The entire point of the show was that you were supposed to make fun of the guys, not to empathise with them. Like why should I ever feel sorry for sex pest Howard or gigantic asshole Sheldon? I don't care that Howard grew up with an overbearing mother, or that Sheldon saved all of their lives by throwing their homemade bomb in the elevator. It doesn't excuse their asshole behaviour.

  • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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    1 year ago

    Americans don't want good media, they want slop movies and background noise tv. Any effort or cost involved in the production is superfluous and exists either to be a make work program or to justify bigger numbers on the hollywood accounting fraud spreadsheets.

    • EnsignRedshirt [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      The real question, though, is why it was cancelled at all. American filler media can have a ridiculously long shelf-life. It seems like once there's an established formula and a minimum ride-or-die audience, shit just keeps getting made. They're still making episodes of The Simpsons, Survivor, Grey's Anatomy, various procedural cop shows, etc. The good stuff tends to fall off, even if it's popular, because there's no way to sustain the output, and it' too dependent on the actors and creators. Stuff like this, though, you can make forever. You don't need to spend on marketing because everyone who's going to be watching is already watching, you can swap out actors, writers, producers, and so on as needed season-over-season, and it's a perpetual cash machine.

      Twelve seasons is a lot compared to prestige TV or big budget streaming, but it's not that crazy for network TV background noise.

  • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    because it was popular
    see also:
    marvel films
    call of duty games
    harry potter books

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Relatively "good" first three seasons to secure the bag, then coast off of the reputation of those episodes and the narratives. The Chuck Lorre formula.