:morshupls: A Finn explaining how the concentration camps in Karelia were totally not part of ethnic cleansing but just a form of resistance against the Soviet oppressors
finland is just a smol bean uwu, those meanie soviets were always the aggressors 😡😡 especially during the russian civil war when pood widdle finn raiding parties went all around the border and baltic states doing a hecking anti-communism wholesome 200
Vladimir Lenin: I execute my enemies during a civil war.
:wojak-nooo:
CGE Mannerheim: I execute my enemies during a civil war.
:so-true:
Really though, it's funny how not-so-wholesome, authoritankie actions and invasions are a-okay if the end result is a muh Liberal Herrenvolk Democracy (as opposed to the evil commies who want a classless society). Seen the same apologetics for South Korea's dictatorship.
One of the funny things is that Mannerheim (may he burn forever in hell inshallah) continued to execute his enemies after the civil war, against the direct commands of the government. Don't you dare to call 1920-1940 finland a fascist dictatorship though, it was just a wholesome liberal democracy with fascist brownshirt gangs running around abducting social democrats and driving them to the eastern border for being too lefty, and if you were ACTUALLY a leftie you'd be in a prison being abused by the fascist brownshirt guards. :shrug-outta-hecks:
you see Stalin was against ethnic cleansing so by doing ethnic cleansing we were resisting soviet tyranny which claimed a fundamental value to every human life
Also don’t look up the life of the man who introduced the swastika to the Finnish military
spoiler
From Reuters
However, it is wrong to claim the flag demonstrates Finland condoning Nazism, historians and the Finnish Air Force say; although Helsinki did ally with Nazi Germany between 1941to1944to fight off Soviet invasion (here).
A Finnish Air Force spokesperson told Reuters the swastika in the Finnish Air Force flag featured in the photos was introduced in1918 – before Nazism rose in Europe.
“The first aircraft of the Finnish Air Force, a Thulin Typ D reconnaissance aircraft, was donated by [Swedish count] Eric von Rosen in1918,” the spokesperson explained.
“He had painted his personal symbol of luck, a blue swastika, on the wings of the aircraft.”
That symbol, the spokesperson said, then became “the national insignia of all Finnish Air Force aircraft from1918until1945. As the symbol of the first aircraft of the Air Force, a swastika remains featured in Air Force unit flags.”
After World War Two, blue swastikas on aircraft were replaced by blue and white roundels, while the emblem was used in the Finnish Air Force logo until2017, when it changed the swastika with wings to a golden eagle with a circle of wings, according to2020 reports (here, here).
Kai Mecklin, director of the Finnish Air Force Museum, affirmed the air force’s comments, saying the swastika was not used to demonstrate support of Nazism but an emblem of Eric von Rosen.
Mecklin told Reuters: “He wanted to mark the plane with his lucky emblem. This was years before Nazis existed. For us it is symbol of freedom and independence.”
Teivo Teivainen, Professor of World Politics at the University of Helsinki, told Reuters that the swastika’s 1918 appearance was “clearly a non-Nazi thing”, given the German National Socialist Party did not exist at the time.
Computer, look up this von Rosen fellow.
Swedish count Eric von Rosen gave the Finnish White government its second aircraft, a Thulin Typ D. Von Rosen, one of the founding members of the Nationalsocialistiska Blocket ("National Socialist Bloc"), a Swedish National Socialist political party, and later brother-in-law to Hermann Goering, had painted his personal good-luck charm on the Thulin Type D aircraft. This logo – a blue swastika, the ancient symbol of the sun andof good luck, which was back then still used with non-political connotations – gave rise to the insignia of the Finnish Air Force. The white circular background originated when the Finns painted over the advertisement from the Thulin air academy. The swastika was officially taken into use after an orderby Commander-in-Chief C. G. E. Mannerheim on18 March 1918. The FAF changed its aircraft insignia, which resembled the swastika of the Third Reich, after 1944 due to an Allied Control Commission decree, which prohibited fascist organizations.
And how they didn't actually participate in the blockade and siege of Leningrad.
It's kinda wild, they took part in the siege and all but they're painted as "Well, they stopped by the 1939 borders and didn't take direct actions against the besieged city" as if they were benevolent or had actual mercy on the soon-to-be-genocided Soviets, they didn't take direct actions on the city for the same reasons the Nazis did: taking Leningrad by force was to be ridiculously costly and starving them out was "cheaper". Still, the Finns collaborated with the Germans by setting up a flotilla in Lake Ladoga to interdict in Soviet supply lines when the lake was not frozen (alongside German and Italian units), and despite being "passive" on the front, they still pressured the encircled Soviets.
Classic Baltic States moment. Now we just need a Finn to explain how his country was definitely not part of the Axis powers during WW2
:morshupls: A Finn explaining how the concentration camps in Karelia were totally not part of ethnic cleansing but just a form of resistance against the Soviet oppressors
finland is just a smol bean uwu, those meanie soviets were always the aggressors 😡😡 especially during the russian civil war when pood widdle finn raiding parties went all around the border and baltic states doing a hecking anti-communism wholesome 200
Vladimir Lenin: I execute my enemies during a civil war.
:wojak-nooo:
CGE Mannerheim: I execute my enemies during a civil war.
:so-true:
Really though, it's funny how not-so-wholesome, authoritankie actions and invasions are a-okay if the end result is a muh Liberal
HerrenvolkDemocracy (as opposed to the evil commies who want a classless society). Seen the same apologetics for South Korea's dictatorship.One of the funny things is that Mannerheim (may he burn forever in hell inshallah) continued to execute his enemies after the civil war, against the direct commands of the government. Don't you dare to call 1920-1940 finland a fascist dictatorship though, it was just a wholesome liberal democracy with fascist brownshirt gangs running around abducting social democrats and driving them to the eastern border for being too lefty, and if you were ACTUALLY a leftie you'd be in a prison being abused by the fascist brownshirt guards. :shrug-outta-hecks:
you see Stalin was against ethnic cleansing so by doing ethnic cleansing we were resisting soviet tyranny which claimed a fundamental value to every human life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZYRyHpzIPE
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Also don’t look up the life of the man who introduced the swastika to the Finnish military
spoiler
From Reuters
However, it is wrong to claim the flag demonstrates Finland condoning Nazism, historians and the Finnish Air Force say; although Helsinki did ally with Nazi Germany between 1941 to 1944 to fight off Soviet invasion (here). A Finnish Air Force spokesperson told Reuters the swastika in the Finnish Air Force flag featured in the photos was introduced in 1918 – before Nazism rose in Europe. “The first aircraft of the Finnish Air Force, a Thulin Typ D reconnaissance aircraft, was donated by [Swedish count] Eric von Rosen in 1918,” the spokesperson explained. “He had painted his personal symbol of luck, a blue swastika, on the wings of the aircraft.” That symbol, the spokesperson said, then became “the national insignia of all Finnish Air Force aircraft from 1918 until 1945. As the symbol of the first aircraft of the Air Force, a swastika remains featured in Air Force unit flags.” After World War Two, blue swastikas on aircraft were replaced by blue and white roundels, while the emblem was used in the Finnish Air Force logo until 2017, when it changed the swastika with wings to a golden eagle with a circle of wings, according to 2020 reports (here, here). Kai Mecklin, director of the Finnish Air Force Museum, affirmed the air force’s comments, saying the swastika was not used to demonstrate support of Nazism but an emblem of Eric von Rosen. Mecklin told Reuters: “He wanted to mark the plane with his lucky emblem. This was years before Nazis existed. For us it is symbol of freedom and independence.” Teivo Teivainen, Professor of World Politics at the University of Helsinki, told Reuters that the swastika’s 1918 appearance was “clearly a non-Nazi thing”, given the German National Socialist Party did not exist at the time.Computer, look up this von Rosen fellow.
Swedish count Eric von Rosen gave the Finnish White government its second aircraft, a Thulin Typ D. Von Rosen, one of the founding members of the Nationalsocialistiska Blocket ("National Socialist Bloc"), a Swedish National Socialist political party, and later brother-in-law to Hermann Goering, had painted his personal good-luck charm on the Thulin Type D aircraft. This logo – a blue swastika, the ancient symbol of the sun and of good luck, which was back then still used with non-political connotations – gave rise to the insignia of the Finnish Air Force. The white circular background originated when the Finns painted over the advertisement from the Thulin air academy. The swastika was officially taken into use after an order by Commander-in-Chief C. G. E. Mannerheim on 18 March 1918. The FAF changed its aircraft insignia, which resembled the swastika of the Third Reich, after 1944 due to an Allied Control Commission decree, which prohibited fascist organizations.Um, actually, Stupid tankie, the Finns got invaded and lost a strip of land so it was perfectly justifiable for them to starve out Leningrad.
And how they didn't actually participate in the blockade and siege of Leningrad.
It's kinda wild, they took part in the siege and all but they're painted as "Well, they stopped by the 1939 borders and didn't take direct actions against the besieged city" as if they were benevolent or had actual mercy on the soon-to-be-genocided Soviets, they didn't take direct actions on the city for the same reasons the Nazis did: taking Leningrad by force was to be ridiculously costly and starving them out was "cheaper". Still, the Finns collaborated with the Germans by setting up a flotilla in Lake Ladoga to interdict in Soviet supply lines when the lake was not frozen (alongside German and Italian units), and despite being "passive" on the front, they still pressured the encircled Soviets.