In america, more than 60 protesters have been run over this year but people will send the tank man image to chinese people, thinking it will deprogram them and make them hate china
In america, more than 60 protesters have been run over this year but people will send the tank man image to chinese people, thinking it will deprogram them and make them hate china
love how they always use the cropped photo because the original shows that the tanks are leaving the square and that it's empty
also, may I grind my axe here?
It wasn't a massacre of peaceful students, but a skirmish between PLA soldiers and armed detachments from the pro-capitalist/free market reform movement. The protest movement, as evidenced by their own accounts, called for market liberalization and free market reforms, rallying around a replica of the statue of liberty. After the movement had been building in the square for seven weeks, unarmed soldiers were sent in to disperse the protesters, after which many soldiers were beaten to death, torched, and lynched. The New York Times' death count went from 2600, to 8000, then to tens of thousands. In reality, only around 300 (including soldiers) were killed or trampled in smaller clashes outside the square.
Deng Xiaoping was ill at the time, and the CIA had a man inside the party, Zhao Ziyang, dubbed "China's Gorbachev", who promised to open the door to market liberalization if the protest movement had succeeded like those in Ukraine, Yugoslavia, Georgia, and the USSR.
Student protests were funded by the "National Endowment for Democracy" (NED), an NGO fueled by the U.S. State Department and founded by former CIA members. NED has involved itself in numerous regime-change ventures around the world in the effort to dismantle leftist governments through funding internal revolution and misinformation campaigns.
The protest movement followed the line of "color revolutions" in which the US tried to destabilize and create counter-revolutions in Eastern Europe and Latin America after the fall of the USSR. The strategy was to stir division within and without by inundating the media with news of massacres of "peaceful", pro-capitalist/market reformers.
The defeat of a counter-revolution in China
The Chinese Communist Party did not deny the incident and the deaths that occurred, nor did they hide the incident from the public. They held a press conference on national television two days after the incident occurred where they openly admitted the actions that took place, the estimated casualties, and the political motives involved.
An on-scene Washington Post reporter disavowed his own article for its lies and lack of journalistic integrity, especially regarding the alleged machine-gunning of protesters.
Protest leader admits no protesters were killed in the square.
A wikileaks cable from a US ambassador to the US state department confirmed that no killings or machine-gunnings took place in the square.
Tiananmen Square "Massacre", A Propaganda Hoax
A British Lie
Don't forget about Chai Ling, one of the Student leaders who said candidly in an interview that she was "hoping the government would kill the NED sponsored protestors" so they could get the support they need
How
"You, the Chinese, are not worth my struggle. You are not worth my sacrifice. "
"The students keep asking what shall we do next? But how can I tell them that what we are hoping for is bloodshed. For a moment when the government has no choice but to brazenly butcher the people. Only when the square is awash with blood will the people of China open their eyes. How can I explain any of this to my fellow students. And what is truly hard is some students are working so hard to prevent the government from taking such measures.
"For the sake of their selfish interests they are trying to get us out of the square before the government takes action"
"That's why I feel so sad. I can't tell my fellow students we must use our blood and our lives for the people to rise up. Of course the students will be willing but they are still such young children."
The reporter then asks her if she is going to "stay in the square herself?"
"No I won't" is Chai Lings reply
Why was Chai Ling unwilling to sacrifice herself for a movement she oversaw that caused so much bloodshed? Because she already had a green card to USA where she lives quite happily now.
Chinese people were not worth her struggle or sacrifice. But the CIA was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5__ESiklA1A
Here's the whole documentary, if you use it at least link that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gtt2JxmQtg&ab_channel=MiculMasten https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gtt2JxmQtg&ab_channel=MiculMasten0
Why? I was referring to Chai Ling and her luring students jnto a massacre, how she hated the Chinese people and the fact she was a CIA spy
Why would i link the entire documentary?
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sorry I'm not clear— the speech, or the fatalities?
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from my understanding the fatalities were in the neighborhood near the square but not in it
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the western narrative is that they mowed people down in the square itself, seems reasonable to point out a basic inaccuracy on where the deaths occurred. I don't see that as a trivial detail
I didn't write this pasta originally and if you have a suggestion on how to rephrase it I'll listen
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It's not a trivial gripe because it's primarily about how the deaths occurred. There were armed guerrillas attacking and lynching PLA soldiers, and the soldiers attacked and killed in return. It was legitimate self-defense on behalf of the PLA.
The lie is that the thousands of unarmed, innocent, student protesters who had gathered publicly in the square were mowed down, because the evil commie Chinese have no respect for human life and wanted to crush dissent. That's what most Americans visualize when they hear "Tienanmen Square Massacre", thanks to propaganda. The truth is that the square emptied out peacefully, and the total fatalities from both sides were about 200. The PLA acted far more restrained on that day than any US troops or cops would have.
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Wikipedia is a fuck.
NSFL: 1, 2
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The violence was not done in response to the lynchings so much as the lynchings were simply a part of the violence. There was a legit battle. The AP reported at the time that "Rival military units battle in Beijing." The CIA had armed rebels in an attempt to foment a colour revolution, as they are wont to do.
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was under the impression it isn't censored as a topic, but I'd have to do some research to check
as an aside Winnie the Pooh definitely isn't censored but that myth just won't seem to die
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"The Chinese government also asserted that unarmed soldiers who had entered Tiananmen Square in the two days prior to June 4 were set on fire and lynched with their corpses hung from buses. Other soldiers were incinerated when army vehicles were torched with soldiers unable to evacuate and many others were badly beaten by violent mob attacks.
These accounts were true and well documented."
Thearticle doesn't state at all where these are "well documented", care to help?
I found a Granta article about Tiananmen, might not be the same one, but it's paywalled. it's been SEO'd away on google and after this digging I've seen too many gory photos for now. but, I'll take a crack at searching it in Chinese on Baidu on the next go round
Okay, appreciate the effort.