Mine have been pretty ambivalent about it all, I've expressed my dislike for NATO a few times and my brother's wife seems to agree. My brother is the standard: "Well how can it be threatening to russia when we join a DEFENSIVE alliance, eh?"
Even the left-wing ones have been glued to Ukraine news and believe Putler is dying from 10 different terminal diseases and wants to recreate the Russian Soviet Empire and become Premier Czar before he dies from ligma
Early on I tried to talk about the origins of the civil war and the West's involvement in it, pointed out the Black Sun patches, etc but they looked at me like I was talking about QAnon
For approximately 20 years, multiple sources have regularly reported that the president of Russia Vladimir Putin is weeks or months away from death or medical incapacity.
At various points, it has been rumored that he is suffering from terminal thyroid cancer, blood cancer, abdominal cancer, Parkinson's disease, leprosy, serious surgery complications, the aftereffects of a stroke, or that he is, in fact, already dead.
:yea: I overheard some pretty standard liberals talking about how the slav brainpan is just terminally locked into the murder & pillage pathway because of the MONGOLS, and I just about flipped a table
Russian Revolution, Stalin's purges, Winter War, Continuation War, Finlandisation, glasnost, perestroika, Berlin Wall is mainly what I remember from school
Berlin Wall gets talked about a lot in US schools, too. It's supposed to be this thing that's representative of everything that's bad about communism but the reality is that more innocent people have died in one month of US drone strikes than were killed trying to climb the wall over four decades (the number is about 140).
Edit: it's not a Texas-level situation though. Pretty sure the origins of the Winter War, the proposed land trades etc were all explained in high school
Don't remember much about the concentration camps, though that might be on my part
Teenage me "whatever, the Russians started it :vivian-shrug: "
Finnish culture loves their mythologised WW2 narratives and their veterans though which might stick in your mind more than history lessons
Also, the civil war discussion is tainted by this too. The reds were horrible looters and ill-disciplined raiders and the magnificent whites were pure and noble heroes.
There was a recent Finnish movie called Sisu about the Nazi occupation of Finland during WW2. It was an amazing example of whitewashing propaganda that the Finnish position was neutrality/independence and that the Finns hated both Soviets and Nazis. The basic story follows a Finnish character in Lapland who's being chased by Nazi soldiers who want to steal his gold. It's mentioned in passing that he is a loose cannon solo soldier with dozens of confirmed kills of Russians, and so the Nazis better run if they're smart.
Maybe ironically the story is ripped from the Russian character Koschei the Immortal (Кощей Бессмертный).
Sisu, by the way, is a Finnish word that refers to the fighting spirit, grit and perseverance of Finns during the winter war.
I always like to ask if people have ever played strategy games where neighboring players can start ringing your border with bases and units and what that usually means.
White people? That's a no no. Slavs? Fuck em all 1000000 dead slavs. Except Ukraineans right now, they're the good slavs since they're killing russians the forever nemesis of our proud and glorious fatherland
My entire family hasn't been this jazzed up since the last time Finland won at hockey
Mine have been pretty ambivalent about it all, I've expressed my dislike for NATO a few times and my brother's wife seems to agree. My brother is the standard: "Well how can it be threatening to russia when we join a DEFENSIVE alliance, eh?"
Curious indeed. :thonk:
Sorry about your family though :meow-hug:
Even the left-wing ones have been glued to Ukraine news and believe Putler is dying from 10 different terminal diseases and wants to recreate the Russian Soviet Empire and become Premier Czar before he dies from ligma
Early on I tried to talk about the origins of the civil war and the West's involvement in it, pointed out the Black Sun patches, etc but they looked at me like I was talking about QAnon
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictions_of_Vladimir_Putin%27s_death_or_incapacity
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No it's North Korea exporting Juche Necromancy to it's evil allies.
Rasputin didn't die, he just dropped the "ras" from his name.
Ras Putin, the true successor of Ras Tafari
cutting off the beard is like superman putting on glasses, the perfect disguise
Ras al-Ghul.
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Motherfucker is Deadpool.
:yea: I overheard some pretty standard liberals talking about how the slav brainpan is just terminally locked into the murder & pillage pathway because of the MONGOLS, and I just about flipped a table
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Russian Revolution, Stalin's purges, Winter War, Continuation War, Finlandisation, glasnost, perestroika, Berlin Wall is mainly what I remember from school
Berlin Wall gets talked about a lot in US schools, too. It's supposed to be this thing that's representative of everything that's bad about communism but the reality is that more innocent people have died in one month of US drone strikes than were killed trying to climb the wall over four decades (the number is about 140).
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Yes
Edit: it's not a Texas-level situation though. Pretty sure the origins of the Winter War, the proposed land trades etc were all explained in high school
Don't remember much about the concentration camps, though that might be on my part
Teenage me "whatever, the Russians started it :vivian-shrug: "
Finnish culture loves their mythologised WW2 narratives and their veterans though which might stick in your mind more than history lessons
Also, the civil war discussion is tainted by this too. The reds were horrible looters and ill-disciplined raiders and the magnificent whites were pure and noble heroes.
My family fought for the Reds, and some died as POWs on White-run camps so they've always at least sympathised with the Red side
hella based :rat-salute:
There was a recent Finnish movie called Sisu about the Nazi occupation of Finland during WW2. It was an amazing example of whitewashing propaganda that the Finnish position was neutrality/independence and that the Finns hated both Soviets and Nazis. The basic story follows a Finnish character in Lapland who's being chased by Nazi soldiers who want to steal his gold. It's mentioned in passing that he is a loose cannon solo soldier with dozens of confirmed kills of Russians, and so the Nazis better run if they're smart.
Maybe ironically the story is ripped from the Russian character Koschei the Immortal (Кощей Бессмертный).
Sisu, by the way, is a Finnish word that refers to the fighting spirit, grit and perseverance of Finns during the winter war.
I recently read a Finnish conspiracy is that the Putin surname comes from Poutiainen and his ancestors are from Oulu :thonk:
I always like to ask if people have ever played strategy games where neighboring players can start ringing your border with bases and units and what that usually means.
Defensive alliance between aggressors isn't defensive.
Doesn't that just make her your sister too? lol ive been thinking about this way too much.
no that's just me being dumb and mixing up sister-in-law with my brother's wife :blob-no-thoughts:
Didn't Finland send troops to Afghanistan and Iraq? Might as well be in already at that rate
How bloodthirsty is the average Finn anyway? I thought regular visits to the sauna would calm everyone down. Did all the saunatonttu leave?
Depends on the blood that's going to get spilled.
White people? That's a no no. Slavs? Fuck em all 1000000 dead slavs. Except Ukraineans right now, they're the good slavs since they're killing russians the forever nemesis of our proud and glorious fatherland