If the libs get a 4-3 majority on the supreme court, we could go the way of Michigan in just a few years (claw our way out of several circles of hell). Wisconsin could go back to having basic liberal democracy and potentially flip the federal Congress.

And we could likely get rid of right to work laws here.

Right now the state is about 52% blue, but Republicans have nearly double the representation in the legislature, and triple the federal representation. Absolutely wild.

:i-voted:

EDIT: Good job you two the chuds ate shit tonight, it's called for Protasiewicz by a country mile

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah we might never know... but there's some small to moderate chance, in my estimation, that it's literally a historical hinge point

      And at the very least they'll DEFINITELY strike down the 1849 abortion law

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    It is insane what Rick Scott was able to get away with. Extremely normal fucking country.

  • stinky [any]
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    2 years ago

    If you have a shot of actually effecting the result, then voting is nearly always a good thing.

    People clown on voting, but capitalism would be way worse (like in Saudi Arabia) if we didn’t have a democracy.

      • SerLava [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah Wisconsin specifically ranks lower than the DR Congo in terms of democratic representation. And that ranking is in a world comprised mostly of sham democratic systems.

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yes. To the extent that voting sort of endorses or upholds the system, yeah. It upholds capitalism over feudalism whether it's incoming or outgoing.

    • HamManBad [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      If you like Saudi Arabia, why not try Trump's FREEDOM CITIES™

    • Shoegazer [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Local elections are usually much more important than nationals since there have been a couple elections won with like 50 more votes than the opponent

    • wwiehtnioj [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Critique of voting is on how it systemically co-opts and deradicalizes movements.

      This frequently gets oversimplified into "anarchists don't vote".

      If voting is a tool that will improve conditions then you can use it situationally just as long as you are aware of it's limitations.

      Remember inside of you are two wolves and the demsoc wolf can have a little voting as a treat :RIchard-D-Wolff:

  • Theblarglereflargle [any]
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    2 years ago

    As always vote in locals. They directly affect things for the better and help create better situations to radicalize.

    Michigans DSA has seen a massive increase in donors and members since they flipped the state house and did actual improvements. People are seeing the real change that can happen when politicians are held accountable.

    • captcha [any]
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      2 years ago

      Was Michigan DSA actually responsible for flipping the state house and those improvements or am I reading you wrong?

      • Theblarglereflargle [any]
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        2 years ago

        They have filled a lot of thd gap that the DNC left open when they abandoned state level support. They did a lot of thd organizing efforts that got people registered, pushed for specific issues (like ending right to work), and creating a gross roots network that helped flip a state that many myself included thought was red forever now.

        • captcha [any]
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          2 years ago

          So are they a significant part of the DNC machine in Michigan and they made Michigan democrats more radical? How much direct control over those candidates do they have if any?

          • Theblarglereflargle [any]
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            2 years ago

            They’ve worked in successfully pushing the entire Michigan Democratic Party left of the national party by a chunk and have a large say in the metro Detroit political machine right now.

  • CommieElon [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    And Michigan has been doing some good things in the meantime. Those rust belt states aren’t irredeemable just gerrymandered to hell by a fascist party.

    • Theblarglereflargle [any]
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      2 years ago

      Michigan passed sensible gun reform that will require cops to remove guns from homocide/abuse risk individuals or loose their job, expanded the civil rights act to include LGBTQA, repealed the abortion ban, and ended right to work ALL ON THE SAME FUCKING DAY

      Also remember the Midwest was the stronghold for socialism in this country before the direct interference to destroy it. The ideas are popular there and the people are willing.

      • SerLava [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        ^this

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Idea

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewer_socialism

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Seidel

  • captcha [any]
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    2 years ago

    Also for WI voters, there's three state referendums on the ballot, vote NO on all of them. The first two are confusingly worded to sound like they might be doing bail reform but they really expand the states ability to detain and impose cash bail. The second is particularly heinous. The third is an obvious lol-no.

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yes the third is an obvious no (also yeah the first two are nos), but luckily it's also non-binding, it does nothing.

      I believe the point of putting it on there was to run stupid fucking ads with a middle aged fat guy chuckling at how stupid voters are for paying for him not to work while he sits and home watching the teevee. This is a desperate gambit to bring out frothy right wingers in the face of electoral loss after loss in nearly every election that can't be gerrymandered.

      It does not say anywhere in the ad or even on the ballot that this is just a poll slapped on the ballot. Intentionally making them think theyre stripping the poors of more resources.

      • captcha [any]
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        2 years ago

        They had print outs taped to the wall outside my polling place trying to describe what they would actually do. The first two did little to help.

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah that shit was so embarrassing. After all that effort getting the recall going, they ate shit. Then the Tea Party ghouls made a public searchable database of every signatory (unlike voting, it is public data) so that employers could much more easily look people up and discriminate on the basis of that. Not even kidding.

    • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      WI Dems at the Madison level are incredibly out of touch with the needs of the rest of the state. They like to pretend that Wisconsin is still a natural bastion of progressive farmer values when the rural areas have been deep-fried libertarian wackos whose kids don't even actually go to school anymore for the last 20 years.

  • Aliveelectricwire [it/its]
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    2 years ago

    Hey I'm dumping the hundreds of votes you told me to but I can't find the mail in boxes. Where are they again?