notable bits:
crowder filed for divorce
he was not present for the birth of his children
he moved out like before they were even home really
he was clearly abusive the whole time
wait, he got elective surgery on his chest so it would look more filled out and manly?
this mfer literally got gender affirming care?
It's quite common in certain circles. Either it's done to remove gynaecomastia caused by steriods, or as some liposuction or sculpting technique that is more commonly used on the midsection
the dork's only job is his stupid podcast show (or whatever it is) and he can't even hit the gym a couple times a week? lol
And in audio files and text messages I reviewed, Steven Crowder admits to some of his faults, which include a volcanic temper, repeatedly, and at times, regretfully.
But according to sources I spoke to who are familiar with their relationship, Steven Crowder's admissions often came after a sustained period of mental and emotional abuse, and he didn't seem to be able to control his impulses.
Abusers are able to control their impulses. They do it all day every because they have to to survive. You can’t act like this towards your boss and keep your job. You can’t act like this with other aggressive men or you’ll end up in the hospital. So this has it backwards. It’s not that he couldn’t control his impulses. In the process of finding a partner, he drove away people with a healthy sense of boundaries and choose, consciously or otherwise, a partner who he knew would be lenient toward him when (not if) he dropped his mask. He found a pressure release valve.
That’s a lot different from having a lack of self-control. He has an excess of self-control. Does he have a limited toolbox when it comes to coping with his emotions? Oh, 100%. But he uses those emotional tools aggressively to white knuckle his way through normalcy right up until he can’t. And then who’s supposed to “support” him? His wife, of course. And we see exactly what “supporting” Steven Crowder looks like right fucking here.
And don’t get me started on that preemptive shielding he’s been doing talking about how anyone who’s criticizing him is coming after his kids.
:fidel-salute: that's a great break down on abusers and self control. That's a really helpful way to look at it. Thanks comrade
Of course. I try to make it empathetic to people who have been harmed and emotionally repressed without excusing the harm they might do to others. Because I don’t think making excuses is fair to people who have hurt in similar ways and not lashed out.
Because I don’t think making excuses is fair to people who have hurt in similar ways and not lashed out.
I mean what the hell else are you supposed to do though? Be a martyr on a cross for a society that doesn't give a shit?
I have little interest in being anybody's sacrificial lamb.
Mind you that's not a "defense" of Crowder here. His badgering of his eight month pregnant wife is both baffling, and loathsome to myself.
More just an interrogation of whatever point you're trying to make.
Maybe “lashing out” was a bad choice a words. It’s not the job of people who have been abused to never lash out at anyone. I meant more like not everyone becomes an abuser themselves. Not everyone perpetuates those patterns of behavior.
Hmm; that's fair.
TBH, the question of "what are you supposed to do?" Is more than just a rhetorical one for me. I am in a stochastic process of trying to figure out how get my own needs met without just imposing them on others these days. It hasn't generally been an option beforehand.
That’s a difficult process for sure. It’s one that would normally be spread out through an entire childhood and people try to speedrun it in a matter of months or a few years. I don’t know if you were literally asking for an answer to the question, but I can’t say much without more context. Either way, I hope it’s been going well for you so far.
That’s a difficult process for sure. It’s one would normally be spread out through an entire childhood and people try to speedrun it in a matter of months or a few years.
Yeah... That's sort of what I mean; it is in fact something that I'm going to have to "speedrun". Because neither the expression of my own needs or interests, nor the ability to have them reliably met, was something that actually existed for most of my life growing up.
Either way, I hope it’s been going well for you so far.
My work has gotten me set up with what I believe is a pretty good therapist, he actually bothered to put me through some actual clinical diagnostic evaluations, and I apparently have a lot more going on than what I initially thought. So, I have something to work on, and a way to develop tools for that rn.
For sure. And to be clear, I didn’t intend to make light of that need to catch up quickly. I’m doing the same thing.
I apparently have a lot more going on than what I initially thought. So, I have something to work on, and a way to develop tools for that rn.
That’s awesome to hear! I relate to the experience of having a lot more going on than anticipated. Having a good therapist really does make a world of difference, there.
There was a book where the author talked about how they talked with abused wives, who would say sometimes he loses control, and breaks things. The author then asked "does he ever break any of his own stuff?" Which started to plant the seeds of doubt and clarity in the abuse victims.
there are no groceries today. Steaks. Wood pellets. My grill
abusing his pregnant wife for not getting :grillman: products is peak chud
Also, love to be a paranoid rich asshole with stupid IOT security cameras all around my house to protect my CONSOOMER GOODS, only for them to provide evidence of my spousal abuse. Eat shit asshole.
I didnt click the link here but jesus fucking christ is that really what happened?
That.....viscerally repulses me.
Yes, he's laying on the couch berating his standing, very pregnant wife of her "wifely duties". It's like the meme of the neckbeard in his room screaming at his mom for more chicken tendies.
There's a reason nobody who actually works in tech in any capacity owns any of that IoT shit.
Nah, these freaks always marry asap, before their victims learn what an abusive person looks like
For real. They lack coping skills so they need someone to do that work for them and to take it out on when that fails.
crowder filed for divorce
:hasan-ok-dude: WHAT A WEASELLY LITTLE LIAR DUDE
wait now he filed? the previous one he was all "well the LAW says she can DO this..."
according to her family as quoted in the article, he was the one that initially started preparing for divorce. which really makes his whole video about how much he hates no fault divorce even more insane and psycho
That’s pretty standard conservative double think. Exaggerate the fear of something harmful happening to you, demonize the people “doing” it as if they’d made explicit threats, and then use that as justification for preemptive revenge.
I wonder if this was a form of emotional abuse. Threaten divorce to try and cow the victim into compliance. That is a pretty stupid bluff all considered - but I could see it being effective with someone otherwise indoctrinated with religious expectations around marriage and reactionary attitudes about gender roles.
Wow, you're saying that he lied? I am for one, shocked.
Absolutely fucked up to see all the twitter blue hogs think this is a regular argument for a married couple and not flagrant abuse. It's beyond unjustifiable to abuse and control someone like this. Godspeed on that divorce, she can't get away from him soon enough
I am just absolutely shocked that he could do something like that. A conservative Christian man abusing his wife? That is simply unheard of.
Steven Crowder insists that Hilary not take their one car
Why did they only have one car??
Hilary is currently living alone in Dallas, apart from her family and support system in Michigan
Things are starting to add up here
Seems to me that this is part of a deliberate strategy for the purpose of limiting her autonomy
I know it's not the point (the dude is awful beyond words), but if you need the one car so badly to go to the gym or whatever - YOU get your ass up and go to the store while you're already out.
You talk like a little nerd man :xibe-check: shut the fuck up
I'll show you "respect"
