• joaomarrom [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 month ago

    CoD games have always been absolute bottom of the barrel politically and historically, but this one is shaping up to be outright fucking cancerous

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      1 month ago

      They became extremely insufferable after straying away from their futuristic nonsense and rebooting their contemporary imperialist “realism”. Now instead of having goofy Russian villains and B tier action heroes, you have a bunch of “””operators””” dealing with “””real””” issues

      • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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        1 month ago

        There was a real brawl in the early 2000's over who wore the crown of WWII shooter, CoD, Medal Of Honor (remember those games?) or Day Of Defeat. Personally I like MOH

        • anarchoilluminati [comrade/them]
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          1 month ago

          Oh, of course. I was in the middle of those fights as someone who loved all three.

          I was originally a bigger MoH fan but DoD eventually became such a daily game for me, and so much fun in the golden pre-1.6 days when people actually played objectives well, that I have to give it to DoD. I was even recently talking with my friend about installing it again to see if anyone still plays or if it's just bots. MoH never really had a chance once online gaming began in earnest, both DoD and CoD quickly had it beat, but its local multiplayer was so much fucking fun. I've said it before, though, that CoD always impressed me for letting you play Soviets. It was my very first perspective on the Soviets as a kid and, maybe I misunderstood but, it left a very good impression.

          • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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            1 month ago

            I knew a guy who cheesed hard in MOH by binding the fire key to the mouse wheel. He'd run around with the garand and if he saw an enemy player he'd spin the wheel and mag dump in like 1 second. Kid was a genius.

          • dumpster_dove [he/him]
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            1 month ago

            Allied Assault had a pretty big community back in the day. At its peak it was possibly the second biggest competitive FPS after CS, at least in Europe.

            • anarchoilluminati [comrade/them]
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              1 month ago

              That's true! I forgot about Allied Assault being online!

              I played MoH Frontline on PS2 so I missed it. But I played the others on PC and seems like they outpaced MoH pretty quick.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 month ago

      I mean at least in the original Modern Warfare 2 you get to kill the warmongering US general. No chance of something like that in the current CoD games.

  • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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    1 month ago

    Are they gonna show how the CIA helped him with his gas attacks? Or do you think they’re gonna have a cutscene where he’s inspecting WMDs then hands out viagra to his soldiers before grinding brave American POWs in giant meat grinders

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      Doing the bit from the first Modern Warfare but instead of getting nuked, the protagonist gets lowered feet-first into a meat grinder.

    • Zrc [she/her]
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      1 month ago

      "Remember, no Russian" my colleague says to me, as he pulls box cutters out of his bag on American Airlines Flight 11.

    • dumpster_dove [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      Saddam Hussein overthrows the democratically elected government of Iran because he wants their oil

  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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    1 month ago

    It should be modern day and they should do a 'somehow Palpatine has returned ' for Saddam. Also he should be playable in multi-player.

    Also like, obviously this is all military propaganda but barely euphemistically calling something Call of Duty: War Crimes is really on the nose and doing it 6 times had made it pretty obvious thst normal people have no idea what Black Ops refers to IRL. They think top tier operator missions not Honduran death squads funded by drug money cause a black op can't be on an official budget and needs operating capital from somewhere.

        • Redcuban1959 [any]
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          1 month ago

          He was only in the BO1 Zombies with Nixon, JFK and Robert McNamara. Nixon and JFK I understand, but they should have replaced McNamara with Ho Chi Mihn.

    • EmoThugInMyPhase [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      pretty obvious thst normal people have no idea what Black Ops refers to IRL.

      They think top tier operator missions not Honduran death squads funded by drug money

      No, they know what it is, and they support it. They always have.

      • Flyberius [comrade/them]
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        1 month ago

        You are seriously overestimating jelly-brained gamers' abilities to know anything

        • EmoThugInMyPhase [he/him]
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          1 month ago

          Dog we have been torturing and murdering people for nearly a century now. Ask an American on the street if they would prefer to instantly close down Guantanamo Bay or instantly drop gas prices down by 5 cents and see what their response is.

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        1 month ago

        Yeah exactly, the opening of Black Ops 2 is you helping the UNITA death squad slaughter people in Angola. The black ops games are very open with this kind of stuff.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 month ago

      Also like, obviously this is all military propaganda but barely euphemistically calling something Call of Duty: War Crimes is really on the nose and doing it 6 times had made it pretty obvious thst normal people have no idea what Black Ops refers to IRL. They think top tier operator missions not Honduran death squads funded by drug money cause a black op can't be on an official budget and needs operating capital from somewhere.

      Nah in the Call of Duty Black Ops games, you literally partake in missions like the Honduran death squads one you described. The opening of Black Ops 2 is literally being part of a death squad in Angola where you help Jonas Savimbi slaughter the MPLA. People like that, that's the point of the games. To normalise this kind of US military activity amongst the general public.

    • mamotromico@lemmy.ml
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      1 month ago

      It’s been some years since I’ve played black ops, but considering they they are very mainstream I feel like they have above average criticisms of the US role in geopolitics compared to most militaristic media (which isn’t really something significant, but it always surprised me). I’m curious if that’s still the case.

  • Beaver [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    They're gonna say that Russia funded Saddam, aren't they?

    • Torenico [he/him]
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      1 month ago

      They'll 100% blame Saddam for a Highway of Death-like event. Instead of iraqis being charred to death, it'll be some people from one of those laughable nations CoD invents like Puchikistan or whatever the fuck. The massacre will be carried out by the Republican Guard.

      I know they did this exact thing before and blamed it on Russia, they will recycle.

      • EmoThugInMyPhase [he/him]
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        1 month ago

        Gamers were mad when the previous black ops trailer (the one with the anti communist paranoia John Birch interview) removed a 2 second clip of the Tiananmen tank man since Tencent owns some of Blizzard/Activision lol

    • ssj2marx@lemmy.ml
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      1 month ago

      They're gonna have a mission where you find and destroy his WMDs, and then make a plot point about why you have to lie to the world and say that he didn't have any.

    • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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      1 month ago

      Depends who america hates more according to the pentagon who funds cod games, russia, china, yemen, iran, palestine, venezuela, dprk, cuba?

  • dkr567 [comrade/them, he/him]
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    1 month ago

    Ah right the annual US propaganda in vidya game form is coming out. I unfortunately just remembered that

  • poppy_apocalypse [he/him, any]
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    1 month ago

    Looking forward to the cut scene with Rumsfeld some high level envoy of Fidel shaking hands with Saddam

  • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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    1 month ago

    Saddam Hussein speaks English for the 2.5 seconds he's in the trailer because making cod players read a subtitle would constitute a war crime.

  • Blottergrass [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    I remember in 2006 cod campaigns were considered derivative. I guess anyone still involved is just young or too far gbone

  • sir_this_is_a_wendys [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    Bit idea: the game becomes wildly popular but only because people want to play as Sadam. Groups of friends have arguments about people being Sadam hogs in multiplayer.

        • barrbaric [he/him]
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          1 month ago

          IIRC it was Cold War, where the protagonist was secretly a "brainwashed" Soviet sleeper agent. When the twist was revealed, you were supposed to side with the US.... or you could work with the Soviets and detonate the nukes that the US planted under western europe as part of Operation Super Gladio.