So much for r/music being full of rebels. Apparently the LGBT community needs to be nicer to people who, wittingly or not, carry water for facists

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        2 years ago

        Medicating kids to maintain the acceptable norm and allowing them to break with said norms are pretty much the same thing, right?

      • Riffraffintheroom [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Fair point. I dont actually know anything about how a trans kid is assessed, and shouldn't speak to it. I guess what bothers me is that the obtuse dismissal of the possibility of misdiagnosis presumes a level of competence and investment from doctors that I've never seen in my life. Maybe psychs who specialize in transgenderism are different.

        • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          From my understanding children diagnosed with gender dysphoria go through most of a decade in doctor and psychiatrist visits before they'll even consider putting someone on puberty blockers.

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      2 years ago

      Yea, and it's possible for kids who identify as cats to be using litterboxes in class. This is all very real and serious and we shouldn't dismiss it as part and parcel with transphobic moral panic.

    • M68040 [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      I just kind of err on the side of never handing it to 'em for any reason, especially when it means implicitly ceding ground to right wingers

      • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        we could perhaps do a better job of reminding people that sometimes the result of of exploring/questioning gender and sexuality stuff is that you find out you're cishet and only like missionary with the lights off and not the caricature drug-fueled queer poly orgies they're so envious of. (or aro/ace etc but these people don't know that exists)

        • VernetheJules [they/them]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          I argue that a lot tbh because I feel like it's a win-win. Like yes little cishet Timmy should be allowed to question things because no matter what he'll gain a better understanding of himself and hopefully empathize with trans people in the process. Would go a long way in normalizing experimentation and probably help mitigate the panic parents feel when they're child is "suddenly" trans

    • frankfurt_schoolgirl [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      If a cis kid somehow manages to get on hormones by lying, then they would go through the wrong puberty. Like I had to do

      • DornerFangirl [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        And also lying about every facet of their existence for like 8+ years before getting any hormones. You have to do so much shit like present as X for so many years. I don't think it's nearly the same as lying to your psych a couple times