So… all of them? All of them prefer Trump and there‘a only one group where DeSantis could close the gap by gaining 100% of the “Someone else or not sure” group, and even then it’s only by 1%. Dude’s a dud.
So… all of them?
Yup.
The media and the right-wing machine wants DeSantis but the problem is that we still live in a democracy - the hogs get to decide. And they very clearly want Trump. Talking heads will say stuff like "Perhaps the republican base will turn on Trump if he continues to get indicted." The media still doesn't understand that Trump is a cult leader who is also a politican.
It’s been wild to watch the media for half a decade now completely fail to understand that Trump is the most popular Republican since Reagan
My favorite thing (so far) was early in his presidency. The media had such a horrible case of West Wing brain it entirely destroyed their critical thinking skills. They were waiting and waiting and waiting for him to become "presidential". They were 100% certain it was going to happen.
then he launched cruise missiles at Syria and Brian Williams jerked off to it on live TV
I'll leave these here...
Brian Williams - "guided by the beauty of our weapons"
CNN Guest: if he could, Fareed Zakaria "would have sex with cruise missile attack"
On CNN's Reliable Sources, Jeremy Scahill says: "Fareed Zakaria, if that guy could have sex with this cruise missile attack, I think he would do it. Brian Williams seemed to just be in true love with the cruise missile strike."
I remember back during the Bush jr era when the equivalent was a chorus of annoying lib commentators who would say: "I don't agree with Bush, but I want him to succeed." Early iteration of the "they go low, we go high" line.
Some libs will never be able to let go of the "There's gotta be some good republicans left" mindset. Here's a tweet from a few days ago by a lib with 1m followers on Twitter, Molly Jong-fast...
Democrats just need five sane republicans for a discharge petition
I don't know what a discharge petition petition is and it amused me that she didn't even bother to explain. But I don't need to know what is is because it's DOA. It's inside baseball shit that needs GOP help to work. I saw Jong-fast on MSNBC and I could be all wrong but I don't think her "good republicans" shtick is a lie. She actually believes it. She's 100% unwilling to accept that the (extreme) maga wing of the GOP is the republican party.
Already Jeb'ed before the primaries. Even Rubio made it halfway. These Floridian presidential hopefuls get so much early buzz and then catastrophically fail.
Candidates have closed big gaps before. Look at how the Tories are closing ground against UK Labour, despite actively shitting on the country at every opportunity.
I don't think DeSantis is the guy to do it. But Trump is more fragile than these polls are giving credit for. He's still coasting heavily on name recognition and we're a long way from any public square offs outside the niche corners of the internet. The degree to which cable news media piles on our Big Wet Boy can't be understated.
If Meatball can't get more of the fundie vote - he's dead in the water.
literally every single subcategory prefers :thicc-trump: and by a large margin
Sorry to be the one to tell you this but Herman Cain actually died a few years ago
:angry-place: Sorry Rob but I own the libs better, I'm the president.
:trump-moist: You claim that you want to become the President. I claim that I never stopped being President.
They forgot to ask explicitly fascist petty-bourgeoisie whites and people in three letter agencies.
what does "not born-again christian" mean? does it include both atheists/agnostics, other religions, and people who never left Christianity to begin with? seems like a broad net
I think they mean Christians who don't describe themselves as "born-again Christians". This is based purely on context because that wording is garbage. I would have phrased it as "Christians (non born-again)".
I also like the "Not very strong Republicans" category, which makes it sound like they're talking about Republicans that don't go to the gym.
I think its supposed to be non-Evangelicals, but if they asked them to self describe in the survey it probably just means any Christians who think Evangelicals are weird.
According to Pew, the GOP base is 38% evangelical, 21% catholic, 17% mainline protestant, and 24% everything else. it's possible that the designers of the YouGov survey decided that evangelical was the only subgroup that was large enough to study individually without having an intolerably large margin of error.
I’ll be honest, I thought DeSantis was gonna beat Trump handily. I guess all the anti-trans stuff DeSantis has been doing - while incredibly harmful - isn’t the thing that gets most reactionaries super excited over?
I think a lot of people did until they saw videos of him talking and responding to even the slightest criticism. Also, the entire Republican base, while down with sicko shit, isn't necessarily happy with all the culture war stuff. not because they care about trans or queer people but because they think they're wasting time when they could be doing more serious stuff like immigration policy or attacking the Middle East again.
they think they’re wasting time when they could be doing more serious stuff
Trump does serious stuff? :trump-feed:
George Bush made religion central to his identity and had a redemption arc (finding god after a wayward life), which translates well with evangelicals. But: Was there one thing that made Trump so popular with born-again Christians? Like the non Q-brained ones.
Trump made them feel like they were in charge again. So much white reaction can be tied to their loss of power and material benefits (i.e. privilege) as the country becomes less religious and less white. Conservative white folks have always held the favor of capital, but in recent years capital has been trying to expand who gets to be included (note the fervor of white reaction against largely performative acts of support for LGBTQ causes from corporations). And privilege is a zero sum game. Trump was always signaling to religious white folks that he was gonna do things that would let them regain a feeling of superiority, usually by hurting the “right” people.
Was there one thing that made Trump so popular with born-again Christians?
I wish I had a good answer to that. All I know is that fundamentalists love Trump because they are hateful, vindictive, racist, full of rage, and they want everybody who isn't them or like them to suffer as much as possible.
Ninja edit: To this point - I haven't seen even a half-assed article that explains why. I might google to see if I can find a concise article that provides a possible answer.
I scanned three articles and I read ~15% of a very long article. As I expected - all I found was obvious stuff that anybody with a brain already knows - the fundamentalists have a desire for a "strongman" that will get them what they want and that politics is "transactional"
This is the very long article and it seemed very promising - archive.today • Why the Christian Right Worships Donald Trump - Rolling Stone. But I stopped reading when I got to this sentence...
I was raised a child of the Christian right.
I don't care about the writer. I want him to talk about himself as a person of faith. I don't care. I want him to answer his own goddamned question!
Maybe it basically comes down to one word: abortion.
Trump was the only GOP 2016 candidate who said it plainly. If you vote for me - I will appoint justices to end Roe vs Wade. Although Trump surely called them "judges". His promise was enough for the fundamentalists to go fully mask off and to stop even pretending they believed in stuff like love thy neighbor. Trump was their guy from then on and they just ignored the fact is an utterly repulsive and vile human being.
He's a biblical figure of destruction and rebirth, like a great flood. they had a specific gentile king who fought on behalf of the jews, I think a sumerian one?
lol how did they measure [strong] and [not very strong]? bench press to body weight ratio?
Sounds like a loaded question asking a bunch of fascists whether they consider themselves "strong" or not. :frothingfash:
lol college educated Americans showing themselves to have the shittiest political opinions once again
