Donald Trump announced Tuesday that if he is elected president, he will end birthright citizenship as part of an attempt to stop undocumented immigration to the United States.
Undoing the Fourteenth Amendment would be a lengthy and complicated process, which the former president does not seem to understand.
“As part of my plan to secure the border, on day one of my new term in office, I will sign an executive order making clear to federal agencies that under the correct interpretation of the law, going forward the future children of illegal aliens will not receive automatic U.S. citizenship,” Trump said in a video posted on his Truth Social platform.
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Remember this when Democrats say Biden can't sign executive orders cancelling student debt because it would be challenged in court
IMO this looks like a perfect EO that the conservative Supreme Court can shoot down and make themselves appear like they are just looking at the facts.
The Biden EO to cancel student debt was stupid, because it was citing some Covid-era authority that wasn't really clear AND the emergency declaration is now over. If they shoot it down, it will be legally correct in this case. There is an older law that wasn't part of an emergency declaration and it gives Biden actual authority to cancel student debt. If I was president and I believed that SCOTUS will declare my laws unconstitutional just because they feel like it (=they are conservative ideologues), I would at least write EOs in a way that would be internally coherent.
I would at least write EOs in a way that would be internally coherent.
That would imply you actually wanted to accomplish the goal at hand.
which the former president does not seem to understand.
That's not exactly a problem. The GOP justices can solve it for him.
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When Trump was appointing justices to the supreme court and he kept saying "They will overturn Roe," - pundits, columnists, etc all said similar stuff. "He doesn't understand how things work. Roe is settled law."
"Constitutional literalists" are big fucking chud liars and always have been.
They'll probably shitcan this one and the Liberal media will fawn over them and claim it as a massive victory for the legitimacy of the institution which just shredded abortion rights.
MSNBC legal expert: "Justice Alito gave a speech yesterday where he indicated that birthright citizenship is in question. There's a novel legal principle at play."
Anchor: "What is this legal principle called?"
MSNBC legal expert: "It has no official name that we have been able to discover but it does has a nickname."
Anchor: "A nickname. That's intriguing."
MSNBC legal expert: "MFF. We are currently investigating. We have made no progress as of yet to the meaning."
Social media guy: "Um... I can answer that. Middle Finger to the Foreigners."
Anchor: "Oh, boy..."
Undoing the Fourteenth Amendment would be a lengthy and complicated process, which the former president does not seem to understand.
"As part of my plan to secure the border, on day one of my new term in office, I will sign an executive order making clear to federal agencies that under the correct interpretation of the law...
Seems like he understands that the law is fake and can be reinterpreted by the party that controls the government easily just fine.
if he does this and newborns are rendered stateless at birth can they apply for refugee status somewhere less bad when they’re older?
I mean, 'birthright citizen' is generally common in the Americas, and generally uncommon outside the Americas. Europe, for example, generally doesn't just give you citizen status for being born there, you (usually) have to have at least one parent already be a citizen, otherwise your stuck waiting till you're older and can apply for yourself (in the standard 'application for citizenship' process).
So, yeah, its not the hardest for a child to be born with no native citizenship. (though usually the child will be pushed towards citizenship in the country the parents are from, if possible)
So if you have no citizenship, where do they deport you to after your visa expires?
Depends on your age and other details, but usually with your parents. Lots of legal fuckery in the edge cases
Meanwhile in r/politics.
qasdrtr comments on Trump pledges to end birthright citizenship on first day in office
Mr Trump is a moron and this is why we have a constitution to prevent infringement of our rights.
"muh constitution" I screamed as my family was sent to Japanese interment camps during WW2
When the fuck are libs going to learn that the constitution isn't ever an impediment to reactionaries? Libs seem to genuinely now understand that the right doesn't actually believe in anything other than power, and everything else is secondary. It's honestly sad to see the people who make up such a large portion of the american people be completely incapable of understanding that like half of the Republican party thinks being a democrat should get you sent to either prison or a death camp.
Libs follow the rules because they are rules, and believe that rules intrinsically have the power to modify behavior. It's just :brainworms:
it boils down to the following:
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
Yes. The government is totally going to stop the stream of easily abused isolated labor.
Yeah we will see how that pans out.
The most depressing thing I've seen from all the social media coverage of that is laborers telling everyone that prices are going to go up because documented labor costs more.
This is what that one grey zone article is talking about, almost like leftists have some kind of predictive power or something :thinking-about-it:
Not really, it's just made life for foreign workers harder now, in the same way that there was always going to be trade between Britain and the EU regardless of whether or not there was a trade deal.
Didn't he say something similar last time, but then like never did it?
Biden said he was going to cure cancer. I hate this place
So did Obama.
And they both stole it from a West Wing episode, right down to some of the language they used in thr State of the Union.
And worse still, in the episode most people rightly conclude it's a bad idea to announce that as a promise.
Clinton was gonna reform the healthcare system?
He actually came very close to a grand B I P A R T I S A N "privatizing" of Social Security (you know, killing it so :porky-happy: can eat its remains) but then he creeped on Monica Lewinsky and the deal was off because the GOP smelled blood in the water and couldn't resist the moral outrage points.
Remember when the emoluments clause of the Constitution completely stopped Trump in his tracks?
they should have asked the senate parliamentarian to stop donald trumps
I don't think the senate parliamentarian would like to hear about this. Apparently they have all the power, according to democrats
At first I interpreted this to mean that anyone born in the USA whatsoever would not be given citizenship, and I got quite excited :joker-troll:
Turns out it's just about immigrants :(
