• HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    1 year ago

    why do you even consider yourself a socialist at that point? like, you look around at the immense suffering capitalism necessitates and you think "hm, we should stop that," but then you look at the empire built by and for the class that the whole system is designed to keep in power and you think that somehow they accidentally created a good, progressive global hegemon?

    fuck i'm actually reading it and their reasoning is "yes, the US might not be perfect, but at least it crushed any possibility for international communism with brutal efficiency!" you're just a liberal man. you're just a normal liberal. your politics are not significantly different from those of your lib parents. you would knock on doors for kirsten gillibrand's campaign if she said please.

    A single mom working at a bar contributes to drunk driving accidents, alcoholism, and domestic violence, but you'd never call out the workers as being the problem there, right?

    Die

    • FuckYourselfEndless [ze/hir]
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      1 year ago

      Because they're slightly annoyed by capitalism cutting into their own lives, usually just healthcare and education. Maybe violence/crime and homeless being visibly part of their communities/media, too. Maybe social depression and consumer goods becoming increasingly junk.

      They have a handful of really specific issues (you know which ones) and they will not budge an inch left of that. They pick up the socialist rhetoric because that's where the energy's at for tackling social injustices on social media, but it's just tidbits of rhetoric, they not going to actually study marxism or take anything to heart.

    • Zodiark [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      They're just Keynesian chauvinists in DSA clothing.

      • Vncredleader [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Keynes and his consequences have been a disaster for the human race

        • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Keynes was the OG "I can fix her" dude but it was for capitalism instead of a problematic partner

  • GenXen [any, any]
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    1 year ago

    "But a line worker installing high voltage lines, is also responsible for bankrolling the rich factory owners that mistreat their workers."

    "bankrolling"

    • Quaxamilliom [comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      It really is. Every time I see it I get pissed off that I didn't think of it first.

  • Torenico [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Okay don't hate me for this but this is like extremely online to the level that is just sad. Is the argument wrong? Yes, however it's some random ass r*ddit user that has a grand total of 5 upvotes (not 6, because one corresponds to the user itself), it's literally nothing, even if that dude gets 4k upvotes it's all pretty much meaningless. Fuck me they all need to touch some grass ffs. I know this badempanada dude, who I consider cringe, has a personal beef with the .pdf file himself, but this is just sad.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Caring that others are caring too much about something is just a fancier way of caring with a sense of superiority.

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      the .pdf file

      i've never seen this used as a euphemism for that before. it broke my brain. i was confused for like 10 seconds before i figured out what you meant.

    • btbt [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      argument sounds a lil jingoistic but it’s a work in progress

  • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    At some point we have to accept there is no difference between a fed and and a well meaning person that does thr work of a fed.

    Bonus I feel specifically in his case it is useful to remember his old screen name was Irish laddy.

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      https://twitter.com/BadEmpanada/status/1665019504596770821

      for some reason, hexbear adds preview text to twitter links. if you click the "pic.twitter" link in the preview text, that link is broken, because a couple of dashes are added to the end of the link. Don't click the greentext link in the preview text. click the grey text at the top.