If you go to lemmy.ml it's just a bunch of fucking redditors with their dogshit memes and like three lemme users. It's sad. I strongly encourage users of this site who are so inclined to take a break from infighting to bully neoliberals over there.
If you go to lemmy.ml it's just a bunch of fucking redditors with their dogshit memes and like three lemme users. It's sad. I strongly encourage users of this site who are so inclined to take a break from infighting to bully neoliberals over there.
Am I the only one who’s been on this website since day one who has no idea what the fuck “federation” with lemmy actually means, lol?
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It's not much different and you get adjusted to the change very quickly. Although I don't use federation much on Lemmygrad anymore, we're active enough at this point that I don't need to look at lemmy.ml to find content.
When you see something federated (from another website that reached yours), there's usually a mention in the username that says where that person came from, so you know where you are at all times.
Not ominous sounding at all
THE FEDERATION IS COMING
:picard-excited:
It's like how you can send an email to anyone, even though your email address is registered at @gmail.com, and their email is is at @microsoft.com. So you can log into a different Lemmy instance/website, with your account details from hexbear, provided both websites agree to it/federate with each other.
This is the simplest way I can explain it.
I've been here since week one and have no clue
Just fucking log into another site. Posta' close your eyes. Federating's not real hahahaha.
Federation is when the UX is super inconsistent and 90% of the content goes missing after a month, because everybody spins up their own Lemmy or Mastodon instance for personal use and gets bored of maintaining it after a month
ehhhh I think content from federated instances gets saved locally on the sites that federate it too but I'm not certain
Lemmy is a federated service. That means that there are many Lemmy servers and they can all share their content with each other. If you post something on lemmy.ml, all the servers federated to it will be able to see and interact with that post using their account even though it's not on the same server.
And what is supposed to be the benefit of that exactly? If I wanna go onto another site I'll just go there lol.
It helps decentralise the web in an actual way (and not the technobro "everyone should be beholden to a few huge companies but it's okay because they use blockchain"). It works kinda like your phone plan, you can call anyone with a phone number even if you have a contract with AT&T and the person you want to call has a contract with Verizon. If it didn't work like that, you would need a different contract with every provider to call your contacts.
Federation works on open protocols, which means you can also talk to Mastodon profiles directly from your Lemmy account.
Idk, maybe its just cuz I'm a luddite, but that doesn't seem like a great example. Because a contract with another provider requires paying money. Whereas signing up for a website doesn't. So its more like I sign up for one website because I want to talk to people on that website. And now I'll be able to talk to people on another website, which if I had wanted to do I would have just been signed up to it already. Just seems unasked for and annoying tbh. Like we are just going to have a bunch of reddit libs whos content I'm going to see cuz we are federated to them? Why? I don't want to talk to Mastodon profiles?? If I wanted to do that I'd be on Mastodon.
You don't have to see it if you don't want to. You can just show local posts only. The point is if anyone wants to join and interact with a community on another instance, they can, and they can do so without needing 50 accounts. Also, each instance can have their own rules, their own ban lists, etc. which means you can choose your favorite instance with the rules you prefer as your "home instance", but that won't prevent you from talking to people on other instances.
It's the same idea as with email. You can send an email from gmail to yahoo without needing an account on yahoo. This is because gmail's email server can talk to yahoo's email server and share the content.
There are other platforms that are similar, such as Matrix. I run my own Matrix server which only has a space for me and my friends, but I can still join matrix spaces on other servers without needing an account on that server.
That makes these services decentralized. Even if matrix.org goes down forever, I can still use Matrix without an issue, including the rooms that were on matrix.org. If matrix.org creates a rule I don't like, it doesn't apply to me. For example, matrix.org requires an email address for registration. My server doesn't, but I and everyone else registered on my server still has full access to the entire matrix network, including matrix.org.
The benefit is you can have a usable social media site without the centralized control of a reddit or a twitter. the content and users are distributed across many independently run servers. The idea is to have lemmy as a whole, no matter what specific instance you're on, act like one big site like reddit (or even bigger since it can also talk to mastodon), but still enable smaller communities to thrive within that, and make it more democratic because your specific instance can just defederate other instances that refuse to moderate hate speech or whatever.
It's like email, now your account will be
ilyenkov@hexbear.net
You know how you can text your friends a cool link and be like, “check this shit out”? Lemmy has a protocol for different websites to do that with each other automatically. Instead of a person-to-person communication, the communication becomes server-to-server. And what that looks like in effects is that you and I could be having this conversation from separate websites in the future; websites with different focuses or countries or rules. The governance can get complicated, as can the specifics of the protocols used, but the basic effect is that people from different websites can talk to each other, and the websites don’t even have to match. One could be Mastodon (Fediverse Twitter), one could be Peertube (Fediverse YouTube), and one could be Lemmy (Fediverse Reddit). But a peertube video would show up on Lemmy as a post and commenting on it on the Lemmy site would also create a video comment on the Peertube site.
He watch channel zero?!
Imagine all the instances are countries and instances that federate are like how travel between EU countries works without special passport stuff. Borders are open between those instances. And if an instance de-federates/blocks from others it's like how Britain left the EU and lost all the perks and now they can't easily travel back and forth.
So let's says you make a lemmy.ml account. Any instance that federated with them you can go to using your same account.
Looking forward to Hexit