"Playing Russian roulette with your health": my encounter with LA's raw-milk, powdered-meat smoothie | The Guardian

One of Erewhon's featured drinks over the past year is not another raw vegan concoction named after a supermodel: it's a "raw, animal-based" drink created by one of America's most famous male "meatfluencers". For $19, you can drink a smoothie made with powdered beef organs and unpasteurized milk, as part of the influencer Paul Saladino's attempt to introduce Angelenos to his much-touted "carnivore diet".

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Saladino, who once called himself "CarnivoreMD", rose to prominence alongside Jordan Peterson and other meat diet influencers. On his website, Saladino warns his followers against eating plants, saying they are likely to be harmful, and calling vegetables from kale and broccoli to tomatoes and soybeans "bullshit foods" that may do more harm than good. (Saladino did not respond to a request for comment.)

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The smoothie's ingredients include a supplement powder made from uncooked, freeze-dried beef liver, heart, kidney, spleen and pancreas, blended with more typical smoothie ingredients, including blueberries, banana and honey. It's topped with whipped coconut cream blended with powdered cow colostrum, the nutrient-rich milk cows produce after giving birth.

"The name is giving cruelty. Like, should I call Peta?" one aspiring TikTok influencer quipped, dubbing it "the most un-LA smoothie ever". [...] "Dr Paul's Raw Animal Smoothie" has gone minorly viral on TikTok.

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Erewhon (a rearrangement of the word "nowhere") has been a gathering place for devotees of countercultural diet trends since its founding in Boston in the 1960s, where it reportedly survived an early raid by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Today, it is a California grocery store so luxurious it has inspired a Louis Vuitton fragrance and a collaboration with Balenciaga.

The grocery store has long sold raw milk, a controversial product with passionate defenders, particularly in California, where it can be sold legally in retail stores. Wellness entrepreneurs including Gwyneth Paltrow have endorsed it, even as parents whose children have become seriously ill after drinking raw milk campaign against it. Twenty other states prohibit the sale of raw milk within state borders, though a handful of them are now moving to legalize it for commercial sale.

  • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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    23 days ago

    Fruit smoothies are already sweet and delicious, why would you voluntarily consume such a crime against god? I thought a lot of this "meat only" nonsense came from some RETVRN fantasy where they believe our ancestors hunted deer all day and ate them raw, but like... this is so far even from that.

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      23 days ago

      This is so far even from that.

      How dare you.

      The best RETVRN fantasies must have their celeb culture. It's - like - a rule.

  • betelgeuse [comrade/them]
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    23 days ago

    blended with more typical smoothie ingredients, including blueberries, banana and honey. It's topped with whipped coconut cream

    I FUCKING WONDER WHY

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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      23 days ago

      Also, the guy calls fruits and vegetables "bullshit food" and yet they're in there

      Which leads me to believe that perhaps they're not as much bullshit as he claims

  • Wertheimer [any]
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    23 days ago

    Drinking my literal Bloody Mary, stirring it with a squirrel's tail

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      23 days ago

      Bill Hicks had the standup line "I ain't no doctor - but I seen one on the teevee." Updated it becomes: "I ain't no doctor - but I see meatfluences on Tiktok and Youtube." I seriously don't want to google phrases like "TiktokMD" or "Doctube" because I assume they actually exist.

      "I got stomach cancer. Stage 3. The doctors said my treatment was gonna be surgery and lots of expensive drugs and lots of chemo. I was gonna feel sick all the time. It was gonna hurt. And it was gonna be real expensive too! I didn't want that. So I watched Doctube and TiktokMD instead. The meat and supplements I use use only cost me $2,000 a year. That sounds like a lot but it's a bargain. And I can feel the cancer going away..."

      • Robert_Kennedy_Jr [xe/xem, xey/xem]
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        23 days ago

        Once had a guy tell me his mom beat cancer by switching to an organic diet. Didn't really delve into it or ask if it was a cancer that can go into remission on its own.

        • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          23 days ago

          Sometimes I think I really need to leave my hermitage more often and be out and about in the world. But then I think - maybe it's better if I leave less often. Hell can be other people.

          Once had a guy tell me his mom beat cancer

          If I was in a similar spot - I think all I would do is fill up my side of the convo with words and phrases like "oh", "mmm", and "I see." As fast as was polite - I'd pretend I had some issue, problem, or even an emergency to deal with and leave. In real life - I don't want to argue about such things. But I absolutely don't want to hear such toxic nonsense.

    • Angel [any]
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      23 days ago

      None of those words are in the bible.

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    23 days ago

    This just sounds like the raw pet food I give my ferrets mixed for a human palette

    It probably is just that stuff

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    23 days ago

    I generally try anything. I've had haggis which is organ meat, and organ meat is not something I'm typically into.

    Not a chance I would taste or even try to smell this. Same reason I don't add some of my cat's kibble into my smoothies "for protein".

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      23 days ago

      I don't add some of my cat's kibble into my smoothies "for protein".

      Why are you a meowthies hater?

    • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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      23 days ago

      Hell, bone and marrow are wonderful things from a culinary, gastronomic sense. This is just bad on every front.

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    23 days ago

    parents whose children have become seriously ill after drinking raw milk

    Besides farmers, how the fuck your child ends up drinking raw milk accidentally?

    • happybadger [he/him]
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      23 days ago

      Hippies love raw milk here. It's illegal to sell commercially so they exploit a loophole meant for milking your homestead cow. Industrial dairies will sell shares of a cow and then give you a certain amount of raw milk per week.

      • RNAi [he/him]
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        edit-2
        23 days ago

        Hippies

        lukashenko-tired So it wasn't accidental

        Industrial dairies will sell shares of a cow

        k-pain

  • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    23 days ago
    CW dairy, gastrointestinal disease

    One of the main things that made me go vegan besides the bullying from comrades on here and my growing fascination with oat milk and other alternatives to an exploitative, speciecist diet was getting a fortunately mild lysteria infection from eating one too many of these runny French raw milk cheeses that are just pure ammonia bombs. Or in that case, a very impure ammonia bomb. This is a reminder that up to one in ten of these cheeses is contaminated with lysteria and i doubt it's any better when the milk doesn't get processed at all. But i guess that the raw meat crowd already has a pronounced addiction to kinetic diarrhea, adding the grossest stomach discomfort imaginable on top of that is probably a plus in their book.

  • Runcible [none/use name]
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    23 days ago

    Why Dr. Carnivore Changed His Mind About Meat-Only Diets([https://honehealth.com/edge/health/paul-saladino-quit-carnivore-diet/#:~:text=But%20in%20a%20recent%20interview,and%20joint%20and%20muscle%20pain.])

    • itappearsthat [he/him]
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      23 days ago

      You can't make it five years without this diet annihilating your health, incredible lmao. BJJ gyms around the country in shambles. Next we will learn that seed oils prevent cancer or some shit.

    • flan [they/them]
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      23 days ago

      Pauly Salads is so traumatized from being made fun of in 5th grade for his last name he still refuses to touch a vegetable even after almost dying over it.