• duderium [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    They need to go back to making blockbusters that have like ten minutes of pro-China-ness, which was a thing for like two years in the 2010s, since China is a huge market and lots of people there might be into Hollywood films that have positive Chinese characters (for instance). Oh wait, Hollywood can’t do that because American libs and chuds will lose their fucking minds and firebomb movie theaters that show CCP propaganda. Contradictions of capitalism.jpg.

    • Goblinmancer [any]
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      1 year ago

      Dont worry barbie will pledge herself to the People's Republic of China and DESTROY JOHNNY HARRIS

      Remember when transformer 4 was deemed to be kowtowing to china for showing hk authorities as reasonable and competent?

      Honestly its sad that people see stuff like Chinese space agency helping to rescue the astronaut in the martian and call it PROPAPAGANDA. People claim to want movies to be apolitical yet hates it when Chinese scientists work together with American scientists and astronauts to save their fellow space explorers?

      • WeedReference420 [he/him, they/them]
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        1 year ago

        I rewatched The Martian recently and moments of reddit ass dialogue aside the scene where space agencies around the world including the Chinese celebrate the rescue working is legitimately heartwarming, sucks that we're in full red scare 2.0 mode now

        • daisy
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          1 year ago

          Speaking as a lifelong space nut, it's a pretty darn accurate movie, with two big exceptions:

          The dust storm at the beginning can't happen the way it's portrayed. Mars' atmosphere is less than 1% as thick as Earth's. The most violent wind on Mars has about the force of a gentle summer breeze on Earth. No Martian storm could topple over a spaceship.

          Martian soil has turned out to be unfortunately too toxic to grow plants without extensive processing to remove chemicals like perchlorates. This can't be blamed on the author though, this was not known until after the book was published.

          • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            There's some pretty neat stuff we've recently found with regards to growing plants in martian regolith. Interestingly, the problem with perchlorates isn't necessarily apparent right away. Mark Watney would have likely been able to grow potatoes, just really shitty ones. The second part of the problem shows up when you eat the potatoes and the perchlorates fuck your thyroid up.

            There are some pretty neat ideas in terms of bioremediation, though, like growing nitrogen-fixing plants like alfalfa to add nitrogen, growing water hyacinths to draw perchlorates out, or using bacteria for both of these things. A big wrinkle though is that the heavy UV levels on mars may affect some of these chemicals in ways that make them more troubling to plants, bacteria, and people alike. Just really hoping for a sample return soon so we can get some truly accurate simulants to grow in.

            • daisy
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              1 year ago

              Oh those are cool ideas. And yeah, a sample return would be amazing.

            • nohaybanda [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              That, and also you'd need to bring your own Nitrogen cause Mars is fresh out, unfortunately.

          • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            The author of The Martian going back like the terf lady and her wizard book and deciding "actually, the astronaut died from perchlorate poisoning 3 minutes after the end of the book"

    • Goblinmancer [any]
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      1 year ago

      Don't look up but instead of having other spacecraft blow up because hahaha american tech is better when the American spacecraft fails due to billionare bullshit China with the help of Russia and India saves the day.

      • Riffraffintheroom [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        Also the studios get a smaller cut from the international box office. So even if China, Europe and India represent more movie-goers, it still makes more financial sense to appeal to Americans.

  • LGOrcStreetSamurai [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    The movie industry like every other industry goes through these cycles but for whatever reason they are one of the few industries that must publicly complain about it the whole time. Film industry is also one of the few industries that can craft their audiences/customers taste and expectations but also blame them for their their tastes and expectations.

    • duderium [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I was under the impression that every single capitalist on earth is constantly complaining about how they can’t make enough money (blaming anyone and anything except themselves and capitalism).

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      1 year ago

      they are one of the few industries that must publicly complain about it the whole time

      A healthy chunk of the film industry budget goes to self promotion. So there's a ton of naval gazing every time you spend $50M on a marketing campaign and yet nobody shows

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    1 month ago

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  • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]
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    1 year ago

    For the past decade, Disney has been the Teflon movie studio

    I am choosing to believe this metaphor is about PFAS, and you can't convince me otherwise

  • Goblinmancer [any]
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    1 year ago

    I firmly believe that had they not have 100 vfx artists working to deage Harrison Ford (who still have his old grumpy voice lol) the new indy budget would be drastically lower.

  • Dolores [love/loves]
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    1 year ago

    this is a load of bull "dios mio, disney only made twice as much money as god this year!"

    a) their movies are not their only vector of profitability

    b) these are not substantial or yet guaranteed "flops"

    i swear entertainment broadsheets act like not trippling a budget in opening week is abject failure but it really ain't

    • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Broadsheets act like movies don't already at least break even before they even hit the box office.

      Hollywood Accounting? I've never been to oovoo javer.

      • Dolores [love/loves]
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        1 year ago

        doomed to forever be wrong because they refuse to learn the details of their "beat" beyond exactly what the industry tells them

    • Riffraffintheroom [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Their other biggest source of income is theme parks and cruises, which also still havent recovered from covid. It's not like they're going under or anything, but I do find their turn away from the unstoppable juggernaut they were just three years ago pretty interesting.

  • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Start by redifining flop as something other than simply failing to make over 1 triquagizillion dollars then maybe maybe you'll realize you're talking bullshit and there is literally no problem here.

    • StalinSuperFan [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      They are making a literal loss though because they are overspending on advertising and it isn't flowing back into their parks and merchandising. Advertising is still insanely overpriced and they only buy up the spots to box out competitors to the detriment of their own bottom line. It's the same old rate of profit thing, their only solution is to reduce output and destroy whatever already existing media they can

  • ClassUpperMiddle [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    GO WOKE GO BROKE

    All they have to do is release Mickey Mouse the Movie and its all fine. People will watch anything

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      movies are made like this all the time, but sometimes aren't even released. Like there was a Fantastic Four movie that never got released in the 90s.

      Also most of the recent Hellraiser movies have been made in like 2 weeks on shoddy budgets, probably just to keep the rights.

  • Goblinmancer [any]
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    1 year ago

    If disney is losing money, how can they still afford 100000000000 lawyers to harass me for using the Mickey Mouse symbol?

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    2 months ago

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  • Discopanda [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    How about instead making a bloated 300 million dollar blockbuster with de-aging, ghost actors, cringy nostalgia, make 10 movies with 30 mil budget. Or just make a dark tower series idk.