I've legit never seen a video of myself as an adult and have no desire to do so
does security camera footage count because i see that on the little screens at shops
Kinda? But that's just a live feed. I've never seen a recording of me as an adult. Like no one's taken a video of me since I was like 10.
God forbid people have self confidence in their appearance and want to capture snapshots of their lives to look back on
Come on, people are allowed to enjoy things
no no if I personally don't want to do it it is bourgeoise decadance. If I want to do it then it is one of the few luxuries alloted to the working classes
It's fun to take photos of yourself if you don't look like a human garbage can. I learned that with the girl filter.
Gen Z is desperate to pretend that they're different from Gen Y in any meaningful way and are reaching for anything they can grab onto.
I'M SUICIDAL BUT IRONIC ABOUT IT IN A DIFFERENT, COOLER WAY, TYVM
Gen Z is desperate to pretend that they're different from Gen Y in any meaningful way and are reaching for anything they can grab onto.
likes to divide the proletariat into neat little marketing demographics so that their own ideas tastes and prejudices can be sold back to them at inflated prices. One of the divisions is age divisions. I think it's less that [insert generation] is collectively trying to be different on purpose, and more that needs them to be separate for the purposes of maximizing profit and minimizing cross-generation communication, labor organizing, and god forbid revolutionary ideology.
Gonna start hanging around high schools but not in a creepy way, I'm just preaching Marxist concepts.
Lmao fuck you're right. Still a plan C for me I think, so I guess it could happen.
Ok let's be real, gen x/boomers say millennials are destroying western civilization, deserve to be poor because they can't handle money, etc., what exactly do zoomers do? Make jokes about millennials wearing skinny jeans and having side parts and saying "doggo" on the internet? Why are millenials so offended over people 20 years younger than them making harmless jokes about stupid things? Gen alpha is starting to make fun of us zoomers and we don't get all offended, and banter between gens doesn't mean those gens can't get along
let's be real, gen x/boomers say millennials are destroying western civilization
ruling class media pundits are saying that and very occasionally non class conscious people are repeating it. again, I don't buy into this intergenerational conflict thing and see it mostly as a divide and conquer strategy. It is wealthy and reactionary people who are saying young people are destroying the planet, not an entire generation of people. My 60 year old father has never once said this kind of shit to me because he is neither wealthy nor reactionary. In fact, he has always expressed how he feels bad for my generation and all the difficult problems we have to inherit (climate change, etc.)
Why are millenials so offended [...]
loaded question that buys into fake intergenerational conflict stoked by
Terrible way to even start a question because it presupposes an entire generation of people is a monolith and that they are all offended by some other presupposed monolith's uniform and unwavering banter
banter between gens doesn't mean those gens can't get along
https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/episode-38-the-medias-bogus-generation-obsession
I just view the "banter" between gens as largely a manufactured media phenomenon. People aren't organically coming up with these concepts: "Gen X, Gen Y, Gen Z" These are marketing terms come up with by marketing executives. Am I really supposed to believe someone born in 1993 is a "millennial" but someone born in 1995 is a "zoomer" because they were born after some arbitrary cut off point? No. Any given two working class people, regardless of age, will likely share class interests with each other.
You guys act like “generational conflict” is something young people actually care about deeply and not just because it’s funny to make fun of something weird. If anything, it’s mainly millennials shitting on each other for being “snowflakes” since 2015.
In one breath you say this stuff is "just a joke," and in the next breath you say [entire generation is doing X since year XXXX]. Who are "you guys"? Why are you simultaneously buying into intergenerational conflict while pretending it's just harmless banter? I have never done the "snowflake" bullshit and don't intend to start. Actually talk to me and not some preconceived notion.
Maybe I’m not terminally online enough, or perhaps it’s because I have adblockers,
I'm happy for you. I have adblockers too. I don't think of this discussion as a contest about who's online less. I don't think you do either. I'm sure we both have urgent responsibilities outside of posting.
but I have no idea what “marketing” you’re referring to. Juuls only being for 15 year olds Or some shit? I have no doubt they’re scheming, but I don’t know any zoomers who bought shit or believed in a movement because it made them feel younger = superior. They usually just buy stuff because it’s shiny and new or nostalgic
The demographics themselves are marketing. Going around thinking of people as "zoomers" or "boomers" or "millenials" or "gen X" is all marketing nonsense. Why is someone born in 1993 a "millenial" and someone born in 1995 a "zoomer"? What warrants that kind of segregation? I see it as a divide and conquer strategy. Let me give a concrete example, my mom, who didn't raise me, and is trying to reconnect with me in my 30s, is constantly sending me memes that she thinks are about me, because I'm a "millennial" in her mind, and she thinks she can understand me by sending me "relatable" "millennial" memes, but they seem to me reductive, astroturfed, and a shortcut to really understanding people by generalizing them with everyone else who was born at the same time. They're social constructs. I ask her questions about her instead of sending her "gen x" memes.
Luckily the average worker wants to be comfortable and won’t just dismiss your suggestions just because of your age or some dumb shit like “ok boomer.”
Wouldn't have suggested otherwise. Look. The context of the conversation was I was responding to someone who, at least it seemed to me, bought into some weird marketing demographics astrology, and confusing what pundits say for what entire generations of people actually think. That's all. If an article written by some bourgeois boomer says "gen y and gen z are ruining the housing market", it doesn't mean "boomers think gen y and gen z are ruining the housing market." it really means "the old bourgeoisie think the young working class are ruining the housing market". It's a class scapegoating and a divide and conquer strategy. I don't think there's much actual utility in buying into these random astrological demarcations that were dreamed up by marketing scumbags.
But if you refuse to organize with someone or communicate someone over some benign shit like “haha millennials record themselves in a funny way” then I don’t know what to tell you chief.
Who is this statement intended for? Neither myself nor anyone in this thread has said that they "refuse to organize with someone or communicate someone over some benign shit"
I only see millennials always complaining about “being too old” for some zoomer trend, and not the other way around.
Huh how is that a generational thing? Everyone complains about getting old once it actually starts to happen to them lmfao. Getting old is painful. Your neuroplasticity decreases. Your muscles, nerves, and bones fail you. Your eyesight and hearing fades. Your chances of cancer, autoimmune disorders, and rheumatism increase. That is a universal of the human condition. Nothing can save you from it.
When you comb your hair so that there's a line running down one side. Like this
It's a funny thing to complain about for the generation that brought back the perm.
Yeah that's pretty much how generations work? (at least in the West in the last several decades I mean)
This is a textbook example of why your teachers tell you not to use Wikipedia. This article is based on nothing, just look at the sources. They're all trash: opinion columns, dictionary definitions, and cherry-picked social media posts. This phenomenon probably doesn't even exist.
Honestly I think if this article was nominated for deletion it would be deleted. Someone, preferably someone with Wikipedia clout, just has to do it. There's no way it passes muster for the Wikipedia oldheads.
This phenomenon probably doesn't even exist.
it's not a studied thing it's just a casual observation people find funny, i'm a zoomer and it's usually super noticeable when I see a video of a millennial, your generation probably just doesn't notice it because you're so used to it. I did a test and millennial pause is literally the first suggestion that comes up searching "millennial" on tiktok. i'm a little surprised it's on wikipedia and not knowyourmeme or something tho
Oh, easy.
I've been keeping the pause going the whole time by never filming myself.
I hope that helps
i don't make videos but if i did then the pause would probably be due to social anxiety
Social anxiety caused by a society that overanalyses every little movement people make to the point of noticing shit like a pause or a shake
It's an interesting observation I suppose but it seems ultimately pointless. The writing of the page seems desperate to make it seem like it's this groundbreaking observation and that Millennials are ultimately devastated about it when in all honesty it's just a quirk and as long as nobody starts getting weird that "oh you can't pause at the start of the video" or "you need to have a pause at the start of the video" like some weird boomers get about "you're welcome" and "no problem" then it's an observation.
weird interesting lol, I do that pause on audio recordings too and I'm a millenial.
The theory seems right, older devices took a second to actually start recording.
Or alternatively, back in the day (early 2000s) you didn't have the selfie camera and only a camcorder, and so someone would film you -- you wouldn't really film yourself. They had the camera pointed at you and then you would see them press the button to start recording and tell you "go" after a couple seconds (also still done in film to make sure you can splice your cuts correctly). So now I wonder if it's not an even older generational divide, because as a kid your parents would be the ones filming you usually.
I think it's nonsense. I'm a zoomer, I do the pause just to gather myself and think of what I'm gonna say. If there's any correlation at all it's probably due to older people not being as familiar with the tools to edit out the pause that might exist in the specific app.
Oh god we're like boomers explaining carburetors or anti-lock brakes.
Okay I'll explain myself using the link
It has been conjectured that the reason why people older than zoomers[d] tend to include a pause at the start of their videos is to make sure that the device they are using is actually recording before beginning to say anything.[1][23] In contrast, younger users are said to trust that the devices are working correctly, and begin speaking immediately after the recording begins.[1]
Another theory for the pause's prevalence is that the habit may have first been adopted when earlier recording devices commonly took a split second before beginning to record.[24] Although newer devices do not exhibit the same delay, this habit has proven hard to break.[24]
its those two things
so, zoomer, explain why you trust these devices that the NSA is using to spy on you
next generation will start their videos mid sentence, the generation after that will start their videos at the end and talk backwards
the generation after that will start their videos at the end and talk backwards
RETVRN to record scratch "i bet you're wondering how I got here."
“The more he identifies with the dominant images of need, the less he understands his own life and his own desires. The spectacle’s estrangement from the acting subject is expressed by the fact that the individual’s gestures are no longer his own; they are the gestures of someone else who represents them to him.”
You're supposed to make sure you're recording before you start talking but generally you edit that part out.
also on my linux desktop I have problems with my audio drivers not kicking in until a video has already been playing for 1 second, whereas I imagine mobile users maybe don't have that problem? I always appreciate the pause at the start of a video as well because it gives you a moment to get settled after you hit play. Never imagined it was a generational thing.
Oh my god I just noticed that on my steam deck, I looked up a youtube video in firefox to, you know,
figure out how to install the dependency of a dependency of a dependency of a dependency of a dependency of a dependency of a program I wanted to run
and for each konsole command I'd have to pause and play it, but it did this weird fade-in every time, took several seconds to get past the murmur.
I do it, but I also edit out the pause lol. Zoomer shake is a little weird, it makes more sense to like collect your thoughts and then speak doesn't it?
taking a pause is just a chance for someone to interrupt you and try to take away from what you are trying to say. you have to be ON all the time to decimate the enemy during an argument. never go to sleep either, that's like an extra long pause and cannot be tolerated. fuck forming full thoughts with paragraph structures and having a point arrived at before you start speaking, just GO GO GO
these bastards force me to work, i have no choice, but the day will come when these hooves will knock their teeth out, neigh a boss remaining