https://nitter.net/Patticus/status/1686825738320678912
though the modern idea of literally any hint of BO being a capital offense is a little unhinged, people have been perfuming themselves with various things for centuries, if not millenia
people generally like 1) to smell nice and 2) for others to smell niceSuch a bizarre take that I don't really know where to start. Obviously body odor is a real thing, and yes people tend to freak out a little too much about it, but hygiene is not one of those subjects where you want to reminisce on the glory days of 200+ years ago. People literally dumped buckets of shit out of their windows and into the gutter back then.
People probably "didn't care" about body odor back then because their noses were completely fried from smelling awful shit all day long. If deodorant was $100 per stick he might have some kind of argument but I don't think I spend more than $20 per year on the stuff, I'll take that hit.
people tend to freak out a little too much about it
I've seen what happens when a subculture allows the rot to take hold. We do not want to go back to pre 2010 con culture. We must hold the hygienic line.
The one and only time I've been to an anime con there was a sign on the door reading "We enforce the right to remove anyone on the grounds of poor hygiene."
Unfortunately this did not do enough to remove the ambient ass and cheetos smell.
People literally dumped buckets of shit out of their windows and into the gutter back then.
Retvrn to tradition
London had Roman sewers which they used all the way up to the Victorian era but most Britons were pretty dirty by most standards. When the Vikings first arrived as settlers Britons thought they were going to 'steal' all their women because they took the time to wash and brush their hair daily. What makes it even funnier is that when the Vikings got to Sicily and the Muslims there were horrified by how unclean the Vikings were, so the Brits must've been nasty af
return to tradition
the first great buildings by humankind are bathouses
noo not like that
It's specifically the term "halitosis" that was made up for marketing IIRC toothpaste. You don't need to invent BO because nature did that and we've been using perfumes for millenia.
Anyway antiperspirant is great, I enjoy not feeling sticky all the time and also not smelling funky is nice too.
That's the one, I thought it was made up to market a specific brand of toothpaste but mouthwash makes more sense
theres a lot of middleground between "bathed in perfume" and "refuses to bath like an 8th century peasant"
my 8th century peasants resent that, and take more trips to bathe in the stream in a month than this man has in a year!Yeah, 8th century Europeans actually bathed a lot. Maybe not daily, but at least weekly for a full body bath and probably daily for face and hands. The notion that Europeans didn't bathe is mostly ahistorical nonsense. Bathing declined during a couple of major plagues because many people bathed in public bath houses of one kind or another, but it picked up afterwards. Just because Paris smells like piss all the time doesn't mean that medieval Parisians didn't wash their bodies/.
Just because Paris smells like piss all the time
ok smart guy where are you supposed to piss in Paris then
I like smelling of bergamot, amber, rose, oud, and all that shit. Not all at the same time.
Anyone got a recommendation for unscented deodorants w/out antiperspirants? I swore by Schmidt's unscented but capitalism killed it.
I really like the crystal roll on salt deodorant. The salt kills the bacteria and it lasts forever if you get the kind that is a pure salt ball.
Thanks, somehow I forgot those were a thing! Are they fabric-friendly in your experience?
kinda true tbh. like scent is so obviously historically contingent.
Scent is historically contingent but it's also politically important, and not superfluous at all: there's a ton of scholars, marxist ones, who have spoken about the politics of odor: https://mimesisjournals.com/ojs/index.php/ec/article/view/410
I think schools should include stuff like this in politics/government classes, not even necessarily marxist takes but just the odd hyper-specific analysis about the politics of things people don't normally think of as "political"
The university where I went for grad school does teach this as part of a food and taste philosophy class to undergrads, but it's still a pretty niche subject to approach in "lower" education imo.
I agree though. A good antidote to "I don't care about politics" apathy is showing how going in-depth in any subject shows it's inherently political. That's why I'll talk for hours about food politics and philosophy to anyone who'll have the misfortune of asking me what I do.
Hmm. My VPN blocked the page claiming it has malicious code. Says it's a phishing risk.
Who are you going to believe over the WOKE BO CONSPIRACY, me, an alpha male repilled sigma grindset chad or your lying nose?
I'm constantly paranoid about smelling bad despite nobody ever telling me I do and having even been told that I smell good
Just naturally sweaty is all
