Could I just say I like the concept of the social credit system? I already hold the door open for everyone that I can. I've never gotten any points for it.
And has anyone currently seen the credit system in the US? Even mattress stores run your credit and won't sell you a bed to sleep on if you haven't met their arbitrary quotas and aren't paying all cash for their overpriced fabric and springs.
Putting aside any possible concerns related to authoritarianism...
A problem with social credit systems is that its implementation can easily backfire. I really hope they are implementing various parts of it only after serious localized testing.
There is a reliable result in behavioral economics that if you reward/punish people for things, they stop thinking about it in moral/ethical terms. They quickly start gaming the system, even if they had better behavior before it was implemented.
What that means is they have to be very carefully about the details. Perhaps something like a system where repeating the same bad behaviors has escalating costs.
Also making details publicly available has a risk, since low social credit score could also be used to recruit scummy people for crime, unscrupulous business, or even towards political ends.
And I really dislike the way it places value on publicly visible good behavior, ignoring the so often unmeasurable good that people can do for each other.
Such a system could also easily become terribly ableist. Or even classist, in that rich people have more time and energy outside of work for dogoodery.
I am not really opposed to it, but they have to test and think about these things carefully before introducing it on a larger scale.
i see nothing bizarre about a social credit system and i don't understand the fuss. like, if it's only for negative stuff, ok, it's punitive crap, but if you can get good stuff from it? i mean, that's just a substitute for money, and a good one at that. imagine paying your rent by helping set up a community center, or teaching kids, or whatever. that's based
You're forgetting about who gets to decide what 'negative stuff' is, and how they are able to tell what you are doing. Like, if it got implemented in the USA, do you think your social credit would increase if you went to a BLM protest? Not likely.
We already have that in the usa and yes criminal records can negatively effect your credit score and make getting housing, credit cards, and transportation much harder.
Could I just say I like the concept of the social credit system? I already hold the door open for everyone that I can. I've never gotten any points for it.
And has anyone currently seen the credit system in the US? Even mattress stores run your credit and won't sell you a bed to sleep on if you haven't met their arbitrary quotas and aren't paying all cash for their overpriced fabric and springs.
Putting aside any possible concerns related to authoritarianism...
A problem with social credit systems is that its implementation can easily backfire. I really hope they are implementing various parts of it only after serious localized testing.
There is a reliable result in behavioral economics that if you reward/punish people for things, they stop thinking about it in moral/ethical terms. They quickly start gaming the system, even if they had better behavior before it was implemented.
What that means is they have to be very carefully about the details. Perhaps something like a system where repeating the same bad behaviors has escalating costs.
Also making details publicly available has a risk, since low social credit score could also be used to recruit scummy people for crime, unscrupulous business, or even towards political ends.
And I really dislike the way it places value on publicly visible good behavior, ignoring the so often unmeasurable good that people can do for each other.
Such a system could also easily become terribly ableist. Or even classist, in that rich people have more time and energy outside of work for dogoodery.
I am not really opposed to it, but they have to test and think about these things carefully before introducing it on a larger scale.
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i see nothing bizarre about a social credit system and i don't understand the fuss. like, if it's only for negative stuff, ok, it's punitive crap, but if you can get good stuff from it? i mean, that's just a substitute for money, and a good one at that. imagine paying your rent by helping set up a community center, or teaching kids, or whatever. that's based
You're forgetting about who gets to decide what 'negative stuff' is, and how they are able to tell what you are doing. Like, if it got implemented in the USA, do you think your social credit would increase if you went to a BLM protest? Not likely.
We already have that in the usa and yes criminal records can negatively effect your credit score and make getting housing, credit cards, and transportation much harder.
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