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  • Weyland@lemmygrad.ml
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    4 months ago

    Leaving an area just to get them a slightly better political education (something you should provide to begin with), and forcing them to leave behind their friends and (possibly) family is a sure fire way to get them to despise you, rebel later in life, and reject your worldview.

    Instead, if you have the money, and your kids have decent enough grades, take a (half) year off and travel around or even find friends abroad which have kids of the same age who can become penpals.

    Just make them worldly, and give them the political and historical consciousness required for them to draw the conclusions themselves.

    • KurtVonnegut [comrade/them]
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      4 months ago

      Timothée Chalamet was born and raised in NYC, and he grew up to commit galactic genocide, so maybe not great for raising a leftist.

  • ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]
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    4 months ago

    Realistically the only chance for leftist adjacent education (outside of boutique private schools) is in high school, and then only in advanced class.

    Frankly, all us education avoids the kind of critical thinking that's actually an avenue to radical thought (especially since good writing requires, at the least, a flirtation with sophistry that would even piss some communists off. So instead we teach five paragraphs essays.

    This is to say, I wouldn't worry about place so much as getting the kid (if they're able) an IB or AP school program.

    Alternatively, make them work a year in fast food and then hand them Marx. Worked for me (though the pump was primed by an excellent history teacher in HS)

  • Robert_Kennedy_Jr [xe/xem, xey/xem]
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    Not a parent but I would maybe consider leaving the country if that's feasible with your job, my sibling was telling me that the school board has been taken over by the most brain wormed white men on the planet, they currently have no science teacher for the middle school because they keep rejecting the curriculum that have evolution and climate change in them and held a special meeting because the welcome to school decorations had a balloon rainbow arch. This is also in California.

    • mar_k [he/him]
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      4 months ago

      what country would you recommend for an english speaker?

      • Robert_Kennedy_Jr [xe/xem, xey/xem]
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        4 months ago

        I've only casually looked into this because my finances aren't anywhere near close enough to just pick up and leave but if you're looking for an English speaking country and you make a decent amount of money maybe Australia or New Zealand, Portugal, Spain, or Vietnam would probably be in my picks if you're willing to pick up the language.

        • mar_k [he/him]
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          4 months ago

          NZ seems nice fs. i'm definitely open to a lot, though i think somewhere in the EU would have the least hassle for me. i'm lucky, my mom's from germany, so i could get dual US/german citizenship through jus sangueni or some shit. afaik, EU citizenship lets you live and work anywhere in the EU/schengen, without a permit/visa or anything.

          how you feel about Ireland? that's lowkey been a dream for a while. i've also been considering germany, but there's a couple cultural turn offs (american-like individualism and everyone over 30 being the biggest rule stickler)

          i have 3 more years of college, so i'm thinking about studying abroad for a semester to potentially find somewhere for when i'm older. was worried about the cost at first but i think i could actually save money from my american uni

          • ReadFanon [any, any]
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            4 months ago

            Not the person you asked but Ireland is good in a lot of respects but I think the job and housing market is pretty rough. The social security net is generally really good though. Another alternative that is similar that gets overlooked is Scotland.

            Both countries are far from utopias however.

            NZ is a good country especially if you want your kids to engage in postcolonialism because, as a western English-speaking country, it's hard for me to think of a country that has made as much progress with regards to indigenous rights as NZ. It's a vast distance from being good but it's much better than its neighbour, Australia, in this respect. NZ is a bit fucked with regards to its economy though.

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        • mar_k [he/him]
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          4 months ago

          looking auckland's monthly averages i'd say NZ's the warm one and australia is the unbearably hot one

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            • mar_k [he/him]
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              those labels are just someone's opinion. australia's more reasonable than i assumed but i looked up auckland's climate before making that comment, 60s/70s F most of the year is defo very warm to me, especially with no winter/proper seasons

              also ive heard australia's UV index makes those temps feel a lot worse but idk

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                • mar_k [he/him]
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                  4 months ago

                  near NYC so defo not very cold but slightly i guess, still got hot summers. i remember going south and judging everyone who thought 60F was chilly that's like my favorite/most comfy temp for a walk lmao

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    4 months ago

    I don't think there's a good place in America to raise kids. California is probably less bad than most places.

  • ReadFanon [any, any]
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    4 months ago

    My best advice to you is to do practical deschooling with your kids after school hours. Get them to share what they have learned, especially with regards to history and politics and deconstruct the liberal ideological trash while bringing in historical facts and countervailing political perspectives.

    Also take the time to get your kid involved in learning about different cultures. If you're in certain parts of the US, take them to powwows for example. Actually get them to meet with indigenous people, as well as other marginalised groups, so they can develop an appreciation for humanity so that it can serve as a buffer to racism and bigotry. If your kid goes to a powwow on Sunday and then on Monday their teacher tells them "The native Americans used to live here in this very state!", playing that end of history bullshit liberal sleight of hand then your kids are gonna be like "Uh, nope. They're still here - I saw a bunch of them yesterday and you don't know wtf you're talking about." which is going to spare you a lot of effort in cognitively deconstructing the liberal narratives they get fed.

    Follow @hungryrye on social media and see what they have to say about raising kids as leftists. There's gotta be more content creators out there doing this who you'd be able to draw inspiration from too.

  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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    4 months ago

    Muscatine, Iowa.

    Joking. But what I think is going to matter the most is taking consistent time towards working together to learn historical materialism, encouraging the growth of critical thinking skills, and generally allowing them to grow into the people they'll become.

    Although I will say that being able to experience diversity in nationalities, ethnicities, and cultures is essential in developing a more rounded world-view and discouraging racist worldviews.

    • Jumpingspiderman [none/use name]
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      4 months ago

      Though we're from California, we raised our kid in Iowa from 9 years old and he's now a 29 year old leftist, and his girlfriend is the niece of a former GOP governor of another state and she's also a leftist. So, if we can do it in Iowa, you can do it where you are.

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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        4 months ago

        So, if we can do it in Iowa, you can do it where you are.

        bruv, I'm Alaskan, if I can exist, I'm sure commies can sprout up anywhere lmao

  • GaveUp [she/her]
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    4 months ago

    Oakland. Much cheaper than NYC/SF/LA

    Lots of minorities, lots of queers, lots of left wing activism, lots of working class character. Close proximity to SF which also has tons of the same thing but with more bourgeois and white vibes

  • Chronicon [they/them]
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    4 months ago

    I don't think it's gonna be drastically different either way but I'm personally biased towards smaller cities away from the coasts. In blue or blueish states but not complete democrat hegemonies. Seems like growing up where everyone is a democrat (at least in name) sets up an arc for people to react against that by becoming a republican, but growing up where most people are democrats (in the cities), but frothing conservatives are a bit more close to home, and don't provide an alluring counter as much because there are nearby counties, etc where they hold power, is probably helpful. Then, if you're paying attention, you realize how spineless the dem leaders are and how much worse than their own voters they are, and you're on your way to being a leftist.

    But again I have nothing to back this up, its probably all a pattern my brain invented based on my limited life experience.

    I don't think anywhere is going to have much better state mandated curriculum than CA but I guess in a reactionary area your school board could go bad real fast... places like chicago, minneapolis/st paul, pittsburgh/philly, all probably are decent choices but I don't think there's anything really that makes them better places to raise leftist kids exactly, so much as just to raise kids in a more livable urban environment where they might be able to have some freedom that doesn't involve a car. urbanism isn't everything but I can't imagine raising a leftist in deep suburbia except out of necessity.