Like I know it's super fucked up to surreptitiously dose an unwitting mark, but wouldn't forcing a breakthrough experience on chuds help lead them out of darkness?

Here's a video of when the UK government did a field test of army members on LSD. They basically dropped their arms, stopped taking orders, and just wanted to play.

        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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          The experience of one user isn't going to tell the full story of any drug's effectiveness. You need to look at how the drug works on most people in a larger group. Even if LSD isn't magic commie juice, I'd still say it pushes most of the people who use it to the left.

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            The best acid trip of my life was cut short when I was hit with the visceral realization that capitalism is killing the planet, and I havent been able to un-feel that feeling years later.

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              Humans are fucked and we just have to come to terms with it. Like coming to terms with one's own mortality. Unless some massive collective movement to fix shit springs forth from literally nothing, the Holocene epoch will come to a close and the earth will move on without us. That doesn't mean we shouldn't guillotine the rich or anything. Just don't get too worked up about shit you can't do anything about.

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          A chud would almost certainly just freak out and call the cops screaming that antifa was committing biological terrorism or something. They might feel some kind of oneness with other livings things for the first time in their lives but I feel like their only reactions would be fear and hatred.

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      Yep. Without proper set and setting most people wouldn't actually learn anything from the experience, unfortunately.

  • LoMeinTenants [any]
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    Natch, I already found a flaw. If it's too diluted, they'll only feel the buzz of a microdose and turn even more libertarian.

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    As someone that was once given a powerful psychedelic against my will, no. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

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      I was offered a bump of "coke" that ended up being scopolamine. As I began to lose my bearings, they forced me to do more lines under threat of tasers and violence. Then tried to kidnap me out a backdoor, probably at best to escort me to an ATM to coerce me into withdrawing cash, at worst to harvest my organs. Don't fuck with outlaw culture. Also, they support the fash.

      Fuck em. Dose em all.

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    • LoMeinTenants [any]
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      i’m pretty sure a super soaker tube filled with liquid LSD would be tens of thousands of dollars worth, and very difficult to produce. am i wrong?

      Street price, yes. But manufacturing-wise it's micropennies on the dollar. There's a reason the Feds blew up all clandestine operations.

      (Heh, I almost wrote micropenis)

      also it’s not halal to drug people against their will. kinda rapey. chuds included.

      Everyone around these parts keeps telling me to buy a gun. I'd rather fuckin dose someone than kill them. Also, if they keep shooting up schools, concert halls, stadiums, mosques, county fairs, and churches in the name of martyrdom, and civil war erupts, at what point do we fight back? Or should I just vote?

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        The difference is you don't shoot someone unless they're an immediate danger, and if you're in immediate danger, you don't have 45 minutes to wait for someone to come up on acid.

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    Tripping, especially unexpectedly, in a loud, chaotic, hostile setting sounds like a recipe for a horrifically bad trip. I wouldn't wish that on anyone and it wouldn't accomplish anything good.

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    There's this A24 movie called Climax where a dance troupe gets dosed with massive amounts of lsd from a punch bowl and they don't know who did it. It gets really dark and incredible intense. Very stressful movie but pretty good, very loosely based on a real story I believe

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    LSD can not be absorbed through the skin, its an urban legend. even mixed with DMSO, doesnt work. the video you linked clearly states that the LSD was administered to them in glasses of water.

    Another option would be an aerosilized drug, but LSD would be prohibitively expensive, and something like an NBOME would cause too many issues at higher dosages.

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    The problem is dosage. You dont want them to be freaked out forever, and a supersoaker is no way to control volume.

    ....putting a couple drops per bottle in a pallet of water, then leaving that pallet with the rest of their supplies and simply waiting, would probably be a safer, more controllable way to change people's faction in Minecraft, with the added bonus of spreading distrust.

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    There was a story like this in Tom Wolfe's The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test: Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters discussed holding their '66 "Acid Test Graduation" at a ballroom, and smearing the walls with DMSO laced with LSD, as the next day, 6000 members of the California Democratic Party would be attending an event the next day at the ballroom.

    No one was quite sure if Kesey was joking about going through with it, but the venue ended up cancelling on them, which made it all moot.

  • adamantris [he/him,des/pair]
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    Like other people here pointed out, its a myth that LSD gets absorbed through the skin, your biggest chance is hitting their eyes probably, but with their helmets it wont work.

    The only drugs coming to my mind that could work is either a fentalogue like carfentanyl or scopolamine, but fuck that, it kills them instead of pacifying.