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All Muslims are evil terrorists.
China is genociding the Uighurs.
Russia is so warlike that peace loving Americans must support blowing up dangerous Russian children.
Media pounding "Russians evil" into their brain pans for literally their entire lives.
There's got to be more too it than that. Like is there some kind of normalization of mass killing in liberalism? Is it nationalist brainworms and assigning all the misdeeds of the nation to the individual?
Is it nationalist brainworms and assigning all the misdeeds of the nation to the individual?
That's definitely part of it imo. The west has gotten very adept at rationalizing why mountains of bodies are necessary to protect our very righteous and good culture.
The west has gotten very adept at rationalizing why mountains of bodies are necessary to protect our very righteous and good culture.
This eventually comes home...
Normalization of mass killing- as American gen z my entire life has had mass shootings, war on terror, and recently covid. People dying is uneventful for my generation
as American gen z my entire life has had mass shootings
Holy shit this guy is basically calling to shoot up a school, most American thing ever
gen z
Yikes sweaty, associating your whole generation with Putler? Not a good look
Like is there some kind of normalization of mass killing in liberalism?
Ask any lib what they think about the US killing 20% of North Korea's entire population in the Korean War and you'll get your answer
actually they crossed the imaginary line first so it was ok and legal to do genocideI did this once and the admin of the server did the lib thing. He went as far as comparing Kim to Hitler (for invading the South??? And South = Poland????) but the take was so bad the other libs on this (very small) server actually refreshingly turned on him for it, and they were his mods so he backtracked. Idk I think he probably still thinks that though.
I was doing it to point out that if we had to stick to said admins' no 9/11 jokes rule, that the post some random user made making fun of the bombings of NK shouldnt be ok either. After the mods sided me he ended up saying agreeing with me from a moderation sense, but like I said I'm sure he still feels that way about the Korean War.
In a vacuum libs are for peace ("rules-based international order") and reactionaries are the ones openly calling to act like an empire (Ted Cruz's comment on "let's find out if sand can glow"). When the wheels hit the pavement they act about the same, but they view themselves differently, justify imperial actions differently, and respond differently to hypotheticals.
But libs have been exposed to the same pro-military propaganda as everyone else, and let's be honest, a lot of military gadgets are pretty fucking cool, so they're shamelessly horny for a just war. Convince them the current war is actually a clear-cut good vs. evil struggle and they'll use the opportunity to cheerlead the military like they'd be embarrassed to in
Vietnam Grenada Iraq Panama Afghanistan Iraq againone of those bad wars we've regretfully stumbled into in the past.I hate pulling out the quote, but liberalism is distinguished by a distinct lack of principles or ethics.
Lack of ethics? Maybe...
Principles? For this, I quote:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” or in this case, opposing it, as the saying of Upton Sinclair goes.
https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/
Not so much mass killing as mass killing of enemies.
It's not just "Russia bad" that's been shoved into their brains every second of the day for 40 years, it's that Russia is ontologically, completely, irredeemably evil. Russians and other designated enemies have been so dehumanized as to no longer "count" for liberals when they talk about mass murder.
Nuance has left the American media. “Russia Evil, Russian just regular people“ doesn’t get clicks.
Bring back fair doctrine, please.
Noticeable in a lot of links to reddit threads, too. You'll definitely find unhinged fascism in the comments, but you see people arguing against it (or posting genuinely good takes) fairly often as well.
Libs, a land of contrasts (also some of this is just from reactionaries).
I've seen boomers on facebook praise the Parkland school shooter for killing kids that were (paraphrasing) "going to grow up to be commies anyway".
Wish I screencaped it. It was right around when the sub got nuked, I'd go troll freaks on facebook.
A…new school? Truly this symbol of imperialist oppression must be destroyed.
I probably shouldn't even ask, but surely these libs realized that lots of Russians have always lived in Ukraine too? And that the kids going to a school in Mariupol will be mostly Ukrainian?
Thank you. I also love a good rant. I typed it all out but then deleted it because I didn't want to create a pit of darkness for everyone else here.
Why do you think Vietnamese, Latinos, and many Africans write in Latin
Reverence for the Roman Empire?
Ave Caesar!
That's good point. Honestly, my reply was just mocking the libs who call everything Russia does ImPeRiAlIsM and there wasn't much more thought put into it.
To the extent that there was deliberate ethnic cleansing under Imperial Russia (and to some extent the USSR) it wasn't ethnic Ukrainians being displaced from Novorossiya, it was Tatars displaced from Crimea.
who cares
95% of the time, when someone says this on the internet, they're an asshole at best.
Caring about things is stupid. The only way to be cool and smart is to care a whole lot when other people care too much for you to be comfortable.
Wait, I thought they were supposed to be "liberating" those students from the Russian "oppressors", why does he want to kill them?
Really giving the game away there, libs are perfectly aware this began as a civil war and fully back the Ukrainian state's ethnic cleansing policies
libs are perfectly aware this began as a civil war and fully back the Ukrainian state's ethnic cleansing policies
To me, this demonstrates a lack of understanding, not a total understanding. They just don't know shit about the situation (minor details like the fact that they would consider most of these kids to be Ukranian) but are happy to shout "Russia Bad."
There's a reason you can pry libs away from supporting wars over time -- eventually the facts come out (for example, more and more press admitting that there are Nazis in Ukraine), and some of them will respond to that. They just aren't going to sift through the propaganda on their own.
Naming all the bad wars we've fought (which lots of libs will agree were bad in highlight) and then asking "and you're telling me this one is different?" isn't a bad approach.
The Biden allegations thread is one of the most upvoted threads in that sub's history, which is cool. But all the comments are like "Yeah this is bad but I'm still going to vote for him". Sad thing is thats BETTER than what I expected considering lib's usual reaction to that situation.
But yeah I think one of the top mods of that sub also mods E_S_S so its expected.
Bet this MF is doing crocodile tears over the "poor white farmers" being punished for their unspeakable sins in South Africa rn.
Arguing with people who believe in "Russia bad" because my media tells me so is borderline impossible. They incapable of thinking anymore. Like, 98% are not into military at any given country. Stop this bs
I bet this lil guy looks off into the mirror and makes that exact pfp face while snickering to himself everytime he posts like this. Like a bad kid who knows exactly what he's doing, but with a bigger ego and a worse shave.
The only doubt I have is maybe he lacks the self awareness for even that
More like GloinKKK
I mean, that appears to have been done on purpose.
That outline of Russia on the wall is quite garish ngl
I'll try to reply in a thoughtful way
Eastern Ukraine has a mix of ethnic Russians and ethnic Ukrainians so yes there will probably be ethnic Ukrainian children there.
If your talking about the accusations about stealing children. I think this is just a normal school the Russians are pouring resources into rebuilding cities that were ravaged by the war, or at least they want to portray that they are. If Russia genuinely believe it is annexed territory it isn't really weird for them to have public services. It is a bit fucked for some random halfway access the world to fantasize about blowing it up.
On the stealing children thing, Ngl everytime I read about it I get more confused. There was a long form piece on PBS newshour last month or a couple months on mother's smuggling themselves into Russia to get their children from a boarding facilities, they lived in a city that was on the Russian controlled side of the Frontline that was evacuated or something. They went on great lengths to get into Russia and then to crimea because you can't really just like drive through a warzone. But when they got to the boarding facility they presented their id and there children were returned to them without any hassle. There were government employees bc it was a state run facility but not like soldiers or anything like that. The whole thing was just weird. iirc they had hidden cameras on them so it wasn't like the staff at the facility would be like "don't make a scene bc they are gonna catch us red handed".
Idk how to describe why the tone of the piece felt weird. Seeing, once they got there, them just pick up their kids without a fuss stood in contrast to what is being portrayed as genocide. Like the fact they had to smuggle themselves there is seriously fucked. Maybe you'll just call me a genocide denier but the malice and intent that I think of when I hear genocide was just seemed missing. Idk
I'll see if I can find the report. On phone rn so kinda hard to dig up. And sorry if autocorrect fucked something up or my punctuation is bad.
Also welcome to hexbear here is your
Better than leaving them in the middle of an active warzone and better still than what would happen to them if they were taken by
Mfw I miss the rant
