The owner of the meat processing plant was ordered to pay a whopping $1143 to a teen who lost his hand in a meat grinder

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    • DoubleShot [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I’m not used to the federation thing yet, I saw this comment and assumed sarcasm, forgot there were dipshits out there that actually think this and that Adrian Zenz is a “reliable source”.

    • Rom [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Wait, you mean China? Have you even read the party planning bulletin?

      https://hexbear.net/PPB

        • KarlBarqs [he/him, they/them]
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          1 year ago

          Nobody in the world other than libs and Adrian Zenz state there's a Uyghur genocide. Not a single country (least of all Muslim countries) and not even the UN.

          Even Adrian Zenz never said it was a genocide, that was invented whole cloth by Reddit libs like yourself.

            • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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              1 year ago

              "Why are you bringing up the guy I brought up as a source for my claims" lmao dumbass

            • Rom [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              "Bold statements for someone who didn't read a single linked source."

              "Who is this Adrian Zenz guy that was cited by name in every single source I linked?"

            • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]
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              1 year ago

              You don't realize it, but this is one of the funniest comments I've ever seen online. Thank you for that.

            • CloutAtlas [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Literally every single source of the Uyghur genocide goes back to a single study conducted by Adrian Zenz done on a sample size of 8 people from the same village "how many people do you know are in re-education camps", that % is extrapolated to the entire population of Xinjiang to get the estimates of incarceration, then it was published by Radio Free Asia. The millions of people in camps thing was different outlets reporting a singular article done by one guy named Adrian Zenz. Literally look at any article and look into it and they trace back to Radio Free Asia or Zenz.

              You can actually go to the Wikipedia article you linked, go to sources, go to the sources' sources and it traces back to Adrian Zenz interviewing 8 people.

            • btbt [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              It’s crazy what watching Vaush does to people’s brains. Just completely transformed into mulch overnight

            • Awoo [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              Because literally all of these claims attribute him as their source.

            • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              I challenge you to follow the citations of literally any article about the supposed genocide. Please I beg of you. It will lead back to the heritage foundation, where zenz works, or a DC thinktank citing the same study.

          • edge [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Victims: est. ≥1 million detained

            scroll down

            Part of a series on Genocide [skulls.jpg]

            Hmm, those two things don't seem to fit together.

        • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]
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          1 year ago

          You could have just said "actually I have no idea what I'm talking about" instead of linking wikipedia

          • quindraco@lemm.ee
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            1 year ago

            That's a weird way to spell "I am too incompetent to click on the links to secondary sources for what I want vetted", but here you go.

            First claim I made: https://www.un.org/ar/preventgenocide/adviser/pdf/osapg_analysis_framework.pdf

            Second claim: https://apnews.com/article/269b3de1af34e17c1941a514f78d764c

            https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/china-forces-birth-control-uighurs-suppress-population

            https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22311356/china-uyghur-birthrate-sterilization-genocide

            https://www.dw.com/en/china-uighur-women-reportedly-sterilized-in-attempt-to-suppress-population/a-54018051

            https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53220713

            • CloutAtlas [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Every single source you linked literally refers to Adrian Zenz as their source.

              The guy who is a senior fellow at the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation.

              The foundation that was authorised by the US Congress in 1993.

              You're quoting news sources quoting a once-removed US government employee on their political and economic rival. This is why people are dunking on you.

              Have you ever heard of Manufacturing Consent, btw?

            • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Linking wikipedia just screams out that you don't actually examine your own sources of info that you already agree with. This is made obvious as shit by the fact that you linked 5 different sources that all go back to Zenz lmao

        • HighOnCopium [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          I was reading this reply chain and was like, “Please don’t use Wikipedia as a source please don’t use Wikipedia as a source please don’t use Wikipedia as a source” and- farquaad-point

          • quindraco@lemm.ee
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            1 year ago

            That's a weird way to spell "I am too incompetent to click on the links to secondary sources for what I want vetted", but here you go.

            First claim I made: https://www.un.org/ar/preventgenocide/adviser/pdf/osapg_analysis_framework.pdf

            Second claim: https://apnews.com/article/269b3de1af34e17c1941a514f78d764c

            https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/china-forces-birth-control-uighurs-suppress-population

            https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22311356/china-uyghur-birthrate-sterilization-genocide

            https://www.dw.com/en/china-uighur-women-reportedly-sterilized-in-attempt-to-suppress-population/a-54018051

            https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53220713

            • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Damn dude. 5 sources for your second claim but every single one of them references Adrian Zenz. So really it's only one source. One source that is already debunked.

              • Rom [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                Wait, I'm supposed to actually read the sources I provide? I thought I could just copy and paste links I found on Wikipedia to automatically win the argument.

                • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  I can't believe my heckin' wholesome trustworthy BeeBeeCeerino would cite a report they didn't even read drafted by a fringe lunatic reactionary that can't even do basic 6th grade math wojak-nooo

                  • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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                    1 year ago

                    Dude come on, you're using documents you barely read or half remember to argue with people who casually and easily debunked the documents that hold up your entire worldview and we did it 2 or more years ago. You are in way over your head.

                  • Rom [he/him]
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                    1 year ago

                    I'm not the one using Wikipedia to back up my argument lmao.

            • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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              1 year ago

              jesse-wtf Motherfucker did you just cite Adrian Zenz? lmao Jesus that's so on the nose

        • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          You linked to a Wikipedia page that displays a picture of people listening to a speech at a drug rehab facility claiming it is Uyghurs undergoing a genocide. This same page also references Adrian Zenz, who lies once in his original report where he says sterilizations are his biggest evidence of genocide and immediately proceeds to miscalculate the number of IUDs in Xinjiang as being 80% of IUDs in all of China, and then he lies a second time in a follow up where he replies to somebody pointing out his source doesn't support this claim by claiming he was actually calculating only new IUD insertions in Xinjiang being 80% of new IUD insertions in China, which is also false according to his own calculation and source.

          https://i.imgur.com/Zsi11eh.jpg

          Top: total number in China. Bottom: Xinjiang's number. That's 8.7% of IUD insertions. Not 80%.

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          In particular, forced abortions and sterilizations

          Oh boy you should probably not look up what the US is doing in the concentration camps it keeps on its border then. Something we have real evidence of not made up nonsense lmao

        • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          1 year ago

          Based on percent of total population, Uyghurs are the second fastest growing ethnic group in all of China. Who are they second to? Tibetans.

          If you think China is doing genocide via birth control, remind me not to get birth control from China

        • Flinch [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Genocide is when you have ~17,000 mosques, and the more mosques you have the more genocidal it is theory-gary

    • Fuckass
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      1 year ago

      deleted by creator

    • Hohsia [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      As opposed to the bourgeois dictatorship of the US

      PIGPOOPBALLS

    • GaveUp [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      The Telmarines had it coming, don't defend them lol