• SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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    5 months ago

    I could believe it, but Obama is a huge part of the reason he's even in the position to whine about Obama undermining his presidency lmao

  • Vampire [any]
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    5 months ago

    The Deep State is a real thing. There's a lot of nonsense talked about it, but it's a real thing. There are career intelligence professionals who outlast politicians and pull strings in Washington.

    https://theintercept.com/2017/12/06/intercepted-podcast-whos-afraid-of-the-alt-deep-state/

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      5 months ago

      J. Edgar Hoover was head of America's secret police for FORTY EIGHT YEARS

      • comrade_pibb [comrade/them]
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        5 months ago

        The American "deep state" is fundamentally transparent in some aspects:

        • NOT CHINESE
        • NOT RUSSIAN
        • NOT OTHER FOREIGNERS
      • naom3 [she/her]
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        5 months ago

        Holy shit this just “our deep state isn’t a deep state because it’s american”, especally that last point about how in america it’s ok because the constitution. The only attempt to explain how the american deep state actually behaves and functions differently than others is the 4th point which is just factually untrue

        • naom3 [she/her]
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          5 months ago

          Like, I can see the argument that a lot beurocratic institutions in the us, particularly regulatory agencies, are more beholden to private or “surface-state” interest than they would be in a country like say turkey (maybe, I don’t actually know much about turkey) but the national security, diplomatic, law-enforcement and other “non-political” apparatii definitely have their own political power

      • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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        5 months ago

        The US alphabet agencies, famous for being highly transparent, ONLY acting in defense, and ONLY acting in accordance with the Constitution

  • PKMKII [none/use name]
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    5 months ago

    Maybe we had it wrong all along; Obama didn’t sink Bernie in the 2020 primary because he’s a neoliberal, he sunk Bernie because he’s a obama-socialism that just likes to sow chaos within the democrats.

  • culpritus [any]
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    5 months ago

    Joe, you are tarnishing my legacy of obama-drone of the global south. obama-sad