Well, consumerism is directly linked to capitalism, so idk if that really counts. What I'm talking about is the idea that a socialist government should ban stuff that people enjoy but doesn't harm anyone except the user if done in excess. Lenin was a bit of a prude in this way. Love Lenin, but this kind of attitude isn't something we should emulate.
Not necessarily, and that is an important distinction to make between moralizing and banning. Go ahead and moralize about consumerism, I'm not going to get mad about that. It just gets problematic when people try to tie that kind of stuff into a broader framework of moral failings like "bourgeois decadence" that leads to things like being anti-gay.
The ‘Gay = Bourgeois Decadence’ is so dumb. Goes to show it’s not just Twitter leftists with the bad takes, there have always been bad takes and always will be.
Well, consumerism is directly linked to capitalism, so idk if that really counts. What I'm talking about is the idea that a socialist government should ban stuff that people enjoy but doesn't harm anyone except the user if done in excess. Lenin was a bit of a prude in this way. Love Lenin, but this kind of attitude isn't something we should emulate.
Does moralising imply banning? And I didn’t know you were talking about policy. I think we should totally moralise about consumerism.
Not necessarily, and that is an important distinction to make between moralizing and banning. Go ahead and moralize about consumerism, I'm not going to get mad about that. It just gets problematic when people try to tie that kind of stuff into a broader framework of moral failings like "bourgeois decadence" that leads to things like being anti-gay.
The ‘Gay = Bourgeois Decadence’ is so dumb. Goes to show it’s not just Twitter leftists with the bad takes, there have always been bad takes and always will be.
That's less "bad take" and more "hate crime"
I didn’t mean to downplay it, the bad take preceded the hate crime.