Starship troopers is not fascist. It’s an allegory for we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children
It's funny how these crypto fascists try to play coy about this.
"Heh how can it be fascist if I agree with it, I'm a 'classical liberal/conservative/libertarian' not a fascist. In fact the left are the real fascists :smuglord: "
These fucks do this with everything.
"A Godless communist could never understand true patriotism and loyalty to your nation" is something a fascist would say.
"communists could never be social chauvinists"
fuck I wish that were true
i don't care what age you are, if you un-ironically say goddamned communist you've reached peak boomer
Just gonna turn this dial labeled "Media Literacy" all the way down and see what happens.
sniff... sniff sniff
Is that gas? Shit.. somebody turned of the pilot light on the stove again. OPEN THE WINDOW OPEN THE WINDOW!
She’s either dumb as rocks or trying so incredibly hard to get on the payroll of some ghoulish think-tank or both. It’s all so engagement baity my money is on the think-tank.
she's a career grifter, in it for the long haul. for a while she was doing okay as an SJW, even though literally the only thing she did was tweet and get harassed, but i guess the market for that is starting to get oversaturated.
I've literally seen a few clips of the starship troopers movie and the satire is incredibly obvious. Is media literacy really that bad now?
The movie is different from the book tho. The movie is practically a parody of a war movie that makes fun of Earth's hyper-militaristic and fascist government. The aliens are insect like and more savage and are just defending themselves against some stupid humans.
In the book, the aliens are much more humanoid and are a rival hypermilitaristic empire that is fighting against the humans, who are also hypermilitaristic, but good, because the creator was a fascist weirdo. There is also a second faction of aliens in the books who switch sides to help the humans after their capital is bombed.
The movie is different from the book tho.
This is underselling it, IIRC Verhoeven claims to have read like 3 pages before saying it was garbage and that he was going to do his own thing.
I think Verhoeven had already another script ready and he mixed it with some stuff from the books. He also produced a 3d cartoon named Roughnecks Starship Troopers Chronicles which adds more stuff from the books.
Pretty sure I watched most of that cartoon series, if Verhoeven added more stuff from the books, it wasn't obvious... unless we're talking about aesthetics and not ideas.
If you haven't read it, the sci fi action is like 10% of the book, 20% is sci fi politics, and the remaining 70% is lectures on a kind of militaristic libertarian philosophy. The only part of those that made it into the movie is the classroom scene at the very beginning, where the teacher sums it all up by saying "naked force has solved more problems than any other method".
70% is lectures on a kind of militaristic libertarian philosophy.
That’s basically every Heinlein book. Except Stranger in a Strange Land, which is 70% “wouldn’t it be cool if I had like a harem who agreed with everything I said, also gay people are disgusting”
I read it a long time ago, remember the talking dogs and thinking the movie was better but not much else of note.
I saw it for the first time during the Bush admin and it wasn't clear to me that it was satire. More like "I hope this is satire."
That was pretty much everyone from 1997 to 2007. It wasn't until long after it's release thatpeopl generally learned it was satire. Which says pretty much everything about America in the90s because looking back it's so obvious that it's painful.
Most people do know it was satire (as you said it's really obvious) but yeah, every few days in entirely unrelated place i read some dumbass that don't get it and love it, so there must be quite a lot of them.
The movie is satire. The book isn't satire, the boko is just heinlein wanking off about "good" fascism.
Yes, i mean the movie, obviously people with this low literacy aren't reading a book.
We just had Hulk Hogan unironically mime Idiocracy at the Republican national convention.
Whenever you wonder, "can republicans really be this dumb?" Just expect the answer to go even lower.
So yes, of course, Starship Troopers is about society loyally defending itself from Gutians to these people.
"Future middle class office manager enlists in the military for a chance of hooking up with a high school hottie but can't score high enough to be a pilot and gets stuck in mobile infantry."
That's the backstory of Rico, by the way.
I'm not right-wing, I just don't understand what allegories and words mean
Can someone please explain who she is and why I keep seeing her all over this place?
This is a partial answer, with possibly some misinformation. Should I just shut my mouth and hope that someone who actually knows what's happening will answer you? Yes. Yes I should. But I'm a bit drunk, so you're just going to have to read my incomplete (and possibly wrong) explanation.
Brianna Wu got famous from gamergate. She got harassed by gamers. I don't remember what for, possibly they thought she slept with someone for good reviews on a game? That or she criticized a game that maybe an ex had worked on. Shit, I dunno, I'm actually absolutely making stuff up. Well, I've come this far, let's keep going! TERFs are certain she's trans, I'm not certain she's trans, but maybe she is? I'm unsure. Not that it matters, she was a woman that gamergate targeted, of that I am certain. She's now just the most annoying lib of all time, but keeps trying to draw on progressive cred from being harassed by gamers during the gamergate era. I suspect she's going to do a "why I left the left" situation, but maybe you don't even have to do that to be a grifter these days.
Long story short, she was harassed during gamergate, she's extremely, unfortunately lib, and it's better if you pay no attention to her twitter takes.
I don't remember what for, possibly they thought she slept with someone for good reviews on a game?
That was Zoe Quinn, who was the #1 target for G*merGate harassment. Wu also got harassed, which makes it hilarious to me if she's now trying to garner favor from fascists, to them she'll always be an SJW who tried to f*ck with g*mers.
you can avoid your asterisks turning into long stretches of italics by escaping them like this with a backslash: \*example\*
Thanks, I was trying to figure out if there was a way to do that.
i remember deep diving into the "Zoe Quinn lore" and coming out thinking they were a bad person back in '16. i'm assuming much was bullshit
Yeah, it was all bs. Her creepy asshole ex put out an honest to go multi-page manifesto about how she was a (collection of misogynist slurs) mostly centering on how she had sex during a period when they were not together, but really just an absolute tirade of jilted dangerous ex boyfriend shit. That got picked up by the protofash and become "the lore"
she is trans, she's been doing the whole "i'm the reasonable trans person and i hate most trans people too" thing
she is trans
This is news to me. The only sources I can find are LLM clickbait sites that misinterpreted her talking about intersectionality as being transgender herself.
She is trans and she did actually work for Trent Lott before transition
(To be clear, I'm not being a debatelord or doubting you. I want to learn.)
Can you link a source? I can't find one. Which I'm going to blame on search engines going through their death rattles as the LLM's slowly kill all remaining organic results.
I'm reluctant to link directly as it's just full of deadnaming, there was an archived PDF of her pre transition resume on lolcow wiki
Well ain't that some shit. I was super wrong. Thank you!
She used to be adjacent to weird left twitter back when there was a weird left twitter.
Media anti-analysis levels:
- It's a movie about a guy who does some stuff.
- The film maker and his friends were just having fun with a camera, but also death of the author so we can stop talking about this
- Do people really derive meaning from random assemblages of pixels on a screen? You will not find happiness there, nor hope
- I have only known shadows on this cave wall
She must identify the fascist society of Starship troopers with Israel and then work backwards to justify how that's good and not how Zionism is obviously evil.
