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Voice dysphoria
While it sucks that we don't have a way to change our voices without effort, I guarantee you that you can and will get better results than you expect if you keep at it. It can be very easy to get discouraged when it comes to voice training, especially with how slow it can be, I'm stuck in one of those slumps myself right now. But every time you do it it gets a bit better, and you can do a lot more with your voice than you probably realise.
Also, transmascs don't just get a perfectly passing voice. It gets deeper, sure, but pitch isn't everything, a lot of transmascs voice train to pass better just like we do.
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Thank you, that's really nice. I haven't started. I watched a few minutes of a video once, couldn't understand anything and just got frustrated and quit (story of my life tbh). I tried looking around here for resources but didn't see anything. Honestly I just hate my voice so much and I hate speaking to myself.
I hope I can.
Genuinely, how don't they? I thought T reversed all effects E has on your voice. I was just given this voice at T puberty.
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E doesn't have any effects on your voice to be undone. What T does is it thickens your vocal cords which makes your voice sound deeper. But there's a lot of differences between men and women's voices that aren't related to pitch and instead have to do with intonation, pronunciation, resonance, etc... Some of these can be helped by the vocal thickening, but others don't change at all. Like, just as an example, some of the differences between voices are literally caused by how big a person's mouth is and T isn't going to make your mouth bigger. This isn't even considering cases where a transmasc's voice doesn't get much deeper or they want it to go deeper anyways, which do happen just like how transfems sometimes don't get much breast growth or their breasts aren't as large as they want.
Thank you, I didn't realize that but it makes sense.
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My problem with the video was I just didn't understand the terms they were were using, I'd actually like to find more videos on it. (plus I was pretty prepared to be discouraged,
still am)Thank you for the advice, I will try that. I feel like I can't hum very high at all though
Yeah so um
singsongy vibes being coded femme while "monotone" is coded masc is ACTUALLY transmisogynistic ableism 
/joke but like maybe not actually?????? Idk?????? Is this a down with neurotypicals moment????
I expected to have this happen at some point, but this early?
and yea I think it is, I literally only have one voice I talk in
Anything else is forced.
Real, we have new theory being minted here folks
Fwiw it's not required to speak outside of monotone to get gendered femme. My wife and I are both very monotone, I asked and she last got misgendered like four years ago lmao. Her voice is perfect & beautiful
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Sorry, didn't mean to come off mad
the "oh an ableism!" thing occured to me just now lol. I didn't think you were pushing evil binary-gender norms yourself...
Good observation about this being an angloid thing though! And it's not wrong of course to point out societal trends or norms. You're not required per se to like, fight gender norms, you do whatever you please y'know? I think as long as you're cognisant of this stuff it's totally fine. Not tryna dictate people's lives or presentation... I GOTTA SAY THOUGH
Literally "Eventually you can't help but figure out that, while gender is a construct, so is a traffic light, and if you ignore either of them, you get hit by cars. Which, also, are constructs.", t. Nevada. Oh man it tickles me when people do this one gosh
I really appreciate that, I would not have picked up on women doing this on my own.