• axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    5 months ago

    I know Americans aren't coherent but why is there such high trust for cops yet low trust for the criminal justice system?

    • leftofthat [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      Something like "they don't have the resources the cops need to stop the crime. So I trust the police but the fact is that crime is basically legal now"

    • Ishmael [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      It reminds me of when I got jumped and robbed by three dudes and someone called the cops cuz I was yelling for help. They showed up after the dudes fled and told me that even if they found em the courts would just let em back out on the streets tomorrow anyway. People really think the cops are just held on too tight a leash when really they're lazy

    • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]
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      5 months ago

      Classic latent fascist thinking: "those spineless weak gay bureaucrat pencil pushers are the ones keeping our big beautiful powerful police officers from doing what needs to be done!"

      It's kind of like the stab in the back myth on a smaller scale. "The cops could win the war on drugs if the courts weren't working against them"

      • huf [he/him]
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        5 months ago

        yep, CSI had a line like this in every episode i saw, where the good police has to do something illegal cos the criminals just have too many rights.

    • glans [it/its]
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      5 months ago

      higher education is higher than anything its needed for

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    5 months ago

    Small business is one of the primary pillars of the american dream myth. The small business owner is the noble entrepreneur trying to make their way to financial freedom. They are the first ring on the ladder and exceptionalised for it.

    It really ought to be one of the biggest things attacked by the left because the american dream myth is a primary pillar maintaining support for capitalism in the US. It is the cornerstone of people's belief that you can "make it" in america.

    With that said I don't believe that so few people wouldn't answer "none" for Large Technology Companies. This poll's data is sus as fuck.

    • context [fae/faer, fae/faer]
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      5 months ago

      With that said I don't believe that so few people wouldn't answer "none" for Large Technology Companies.

      "none (volunteered)" so "none" wasn't an option for a response, but was recorded if they said it anyway

      it's a poll of about 1000 people and the margin of error is already 4 percentage points, so i think the "none" is a lot more dependent on luck of the draw and getting people who despise that particular institution enough to say "none" even though it wasn't offered as a choice

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        5 months ago

        Ok so "very little" is the ACTUAL "none" and their addition of "none" is there to play down how bad the lowest response that was actually an option is. This constructs a very different set of results, 16% of society has the lowest possible opinion of police offered as an option in the poll.

        • context [fae/faer, fae/faer]
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          5 months ago

          and 6% have the lowest possible opinion of small businesses, the pillars of the american dream myth, the noble entrepreneurs making their way to financial freedom. so 2 to 10% of the u.s. population (given the margin of error) have some genuine class consciousness? as an estimate?

    • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
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      5 months ago

      Small business is one of the primary pillars of the american dream myth. The small business owner is the noble entrepreneur trying to make their way to financial freedom. They are the first ring on the ladder and exceptionalised for it.

      And why is it especially so, in America?

      Because they are merely the modern descendants of the "civilized" lofty-dofty settler-petty bourgeois, who fights for their 'rightful' proprietary 'freedom', against the Indigenous people, who have not taken advantage of this and thus must be genocided for this 'misuse' of such land.

      In essence, they are a classical liberal wet dream come true, in the New World...

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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      5 months ago

      No one who thinks small businesses are great has ever worked for a small business owner.

      Small business and big business are both awful, just in different ways for workers

      • booty [he/him]
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        5 months ago

        Big businesses are machines designed to digest you and then spit you out into the street when all possible value has been extracted from you. Small businesses are torture devices with the sole goal of creating the most possible suffering agony-shivering

      • Chronicon [they/them]
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        5 months ago

        Unfortunately not true lol, the brainworms are pervasive. Even people who've worked for both and had a worse time at the small business often hedge and say "well it sucked for me but..." or "I hate to say it but I'm better off at <megacorp>" Big businesses pretty much universally suck and people recognize it but small businesses afford them the opportunity to say "well there's good ones and bad ones" and "they're at least trying to do better for <their workers/the environment/customers>"

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    5 months ago

    The destiny of the US is a military dictatorship taking over urban areas and police gangs acting as neo-feudal lords over rural areas

  • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]
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    5 months ago

    Most Americans haven’t interacted with the police or their trust would evaporate. Pretty much every single one of these institutions has the privilege of being absolved from responsibility.

    • tactical_trans_karen [she/her, comrade/them]
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      5 months ago

      When I was a kid a cop pulled my dad over for running a stop sign with me, my mom, and my great aunt in the car. We all concurred that he did in fact stop, he argued with the cop and got a ticket. My dad is white as they come, and any time I bring up interactions with cops he says you can't trust them... Still votes for Trump, and he's a Christian Western chauvinist. There's no accounting for political opinions in America.

    • KhanCipher [none/use name]
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      5 months ago

      I know a lot of people in rural communities absolutely think cops are practically useless, hell we had a case here that a police dept in a small town 10mi north of me got busted for corruption this past year. And everyone pretty much cheered that they got busted because they had really bad rep.

      But these people also seem to think big cities are crime ridden hell holes and cops are necessary there.

      • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]
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        5 months ago

        My brother got robbed at gunpoint and for weeks he'd bring credit card statements from local gas stations where the stolen cc was being used, back to the police and he was too stupid to tell that their "you should be a detective" was being said to fuck with him.

      • LanyrdSkynrd [comrade/them, any]
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        5 months ago

        I saw a poll they did where they asked parents if they thought public schools are good, and most people say they're bad. But when they followed up and asked specifically about the public schools their children go to, they have high opinions of them.

        Same shit with crime. People think crime is off the charts everywhere else, but their community is fine.

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    Pretty funny how low Television News is on the list given how instrumental they have been in propping up things like public perception of the police

    I guess a rising tide didn't raise their boat

  • TheLastHero [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    the American people yearn for a military coup to establish a small business yeoman copocracy

      • KimJongFun [he/him]
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        5 months ago

        Yes, but this time there will be patriots in control so it won't be a communist small business yeoman copocracy

  • mar_k [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    i wonder what % of that "very little/no confidence" for the military is actual leftists vs chuds who think brandon made the army feeble because woke

  • HexbearGPT [comrade/them]
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    5 months ago

    not one of them is trusted a great deal by a majority though.

    lmao america is cooked.