cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/5284828

The Kamala Harris campaign is using memes and celebrities to present her as a fun-loving progressive candidate. In reality, she represented the ugly face of the US' brutal and corrupt justice system as prosecutor. As Vice President, she has been an apologist for genocide, war, and anti-migrant policies.

  • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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    4 months ago

    I can get why radlibs who were going to vote anyway and think that Trump will "end democracy" or whatever are happy that Biden is out and they have a shot at winning now. But the way theyre acting like Harris is different policy wise in any way is ridiculous.

    She is not better on genocide. She is not better on border atrocities. She's literally just a new face on the imperialist machine.

    • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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      4 months ago

      Same was with Obama and his "change" they elected him and the only thing he achieved was 90% of civilians killed in drone strikes and waging 13 wars during his terms.

      • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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        4 months ago

        With Obama, you could at least 'pretend' before he was elected because he lied all over the place, and he didn't have those lies put to the test until he won.

        Kamala is out here putting out statements that she is fully behind Israel, that she's going to run to the RIGHT of Trump on the border. The only way you can 'pretend' with her is if you literally ignore what she's saying and doing

        • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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          4 months ago

          The only way you can 'pretend' with her is if you literally ignore what she's saying and doing

          Exactly why it's baffaling to me. Libs are acting like its the second coming of Obama - except he was a charismatic blank slate - no record to hild him to. And he wasn't saying that he was going to seek harsh border policies and support genocide.

          They have to be pretending. But its so overdone. They're trying to convince themselves. Hope as tragedy and then Hope as farce

    • the_post_of_tom_joad [any, any]
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      4 months ago

      No, see i think they know it... but if they pretend they don't they can act all outaged later. In their heads though they're engaged in a political maneuver, one worth playing because she's "better than the alternative".

      It might not even be that they're trying to fool anyone except themselves.

      By choosing to believe she's better, by wanting Harris they don't have to attend the fact that even if they don't Harris will be the candidate decided for them. Unless they convince themselves they want what the tv tells them they want this have to contend with the fact they have no voice at all.

      • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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        4 months ago

        No, see i think they know it... but if they pretend they don't they can act all outaged later.

        think-about-it that is radlibs favorite thing in the world. Being wrong and then being outraged about it (while doing nothing) later.

        By choosing to believe she's better, by wanting Harris they don't have to attend the fact that even if they don't Harris will be the candidate decided for them

        Great post! That makes a lot of sense. "Politics are downstream from culture" is a bullshit obviously untrue phrase, but it is true for libs "politics" because there is nothing for them but culture. There is no politics - no way to actually influence the world, they can only engage in culture. And they have maintain the culture of democracy. In that way Trump is the "end of democracy." Not in an actual way, but in libs cultural idea

    • mayo_cider [he/him]
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      4 months ago

      At this point stop the theater and end this mockery, the "democracy" has been dead for decades (if it ever was there)

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    4 months ago

    Kinda sad seeing my nominally socialist friend going completely radlib over Kamala. Might just start pointing some of these things out to him.

  • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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    4 months ago

    Ok but have you considered that she's 'young and quirky and cool' and totally not just an excuse for me to run back to the Democratic party while crying and saying I'll never leave again

    • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 months ago

      The fact that a 60 year old barred out aunt is the "youthful" candidate is... something. I can't put it to words, but it's definitely a Thing.

  • mar_k [he/him]
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    4 months ago

    you may hear liberals and even some MSM fact checkers claiming "only 45 people received prison time," omitting the fact thousands were convicted and sentenced to time in local/county jail. the vast majority of marijuana offenders have long been jailed, not imprisoned, which is usually reserved for higher level offenses. 45 going to state prison for weed is pretty disgraceful on its own

    when harris was SF AG, 24% of arrests led to convictions, compared to 18% of her predecessor. so she advanced the same draconian policies of ruining innocent people's records and opportunities.

    we also have data showing, for decades pre-legalization, black californians were over 3x more likely to be arrested for marijuana use than white californians, despite the fact black people are slightly less likely to be users

    • mar_k [he/him]
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      4 months ago

      she was also actively against the marijuana legalization referendum in 2010, while pretty much every semi progressive california politician supported it. the public vote was very tight and failed by about 2%, and we all know these referendums are swayed by advertising money, paid for by people that an office like her's would empower

      marijuana in california was legalized in 2016, by this time she still didn't come out in support! she didn't even support decriminalization until 2017 (and decriminalizing means cops can still seize it, fine you for it, and refer you to community service; you just won't be arrested unless you're growing or selling). she didn't support actual legalization until 2019 conveniently before her bid for president, by the time two-thirds of americans already supported it

        • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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          4 months ago

          smuglord

          You were just given a list of sources over on Lemmygrad, or you can just look at the image in the OP which has article titles in it and get googling.

        • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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          4 months ago

          Well, you got told this in that thread:

          I couldn’t have possibly known that a list of articles from The Guardian, LA Times, The Nation, Rolling Stone, SF Gate, Huffington Post, Jacobin, The Intercept, The Atlantic, and more doesn’t meet your definition of journalism and is in some twisted way “opinion.”

          Then proceeded to be all 'BuT I cOuLdN't TeLl'

          A wise man can also use a fucking search engine in 2024, shitlib. If you wanna vote for 95% Hitler, by all means, but don't do this 'holier than thou' shit for a candidate that's gonna continue a genocide.

            • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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              4 months ago

              I don't think you know the internet laws

              I don't think you do either. This isn't a debate forum. If you do not wish to educate yourself on something, it is your own failing, not my own for 'failing' to teach someone who's intentions and integrity I can never know. I am not obliged to waste my time sending links to someone who may never care. This is a niche leftist forum, there are no third parties who may view and learn from comment chains without prior knowledge or opinion, which is the usual argument for doing so.

              If you want to better yourself, you're going to have a hard time moving forward when you insist that everyone else should humor you.

            • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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              4 months ago

              I don't think you know the law around here pardner. You're lookin at it, and one of our main rules is no concern trolling, debate pervertry or genocide apologia. I think you need to spend some time self reflecting on why you insist on this behavior.